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14 <H1>[IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd</H1>
15 <B>Tim Jung</B>
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17 TITLE="[IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd">tjung at igateway.net
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19 <I>Wed Jan 19 11:19:10 PST 2000</I>
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34 <PRE>No one is allowed to telnet into that server but me. So all IRC clients are
35 remote clients none are done via the local loopback or from the machine
36 itself.
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38 Your comment that no program should be able to crash an OS is true if this
39 were a perfect world. This isn't a perfect world and software is updated all
40 the time to fix bugs etc, and this could possibly be a bug that needs to be
41 fixed. I don't know for sure. But I don't understand how my game servers can
42 chew up all the ram and put huge loads on the processor (1.xx and higher)
43 and they don't crash the server.
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45 Yet I can run just IRCD and SERVICES and like clockwork the server will
46 crash after a day or so. It points to a problem in IRC and SERVICES and
47 their interaction with the operating system. Since they are the only
48 applications that crash the server.
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50 Tim Jung
51 System Admin
52 Internet Gateway Inc.
53 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">tjung at igateway.net</A>
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56 ----- Original Message -----
57 From: &quot;Kevin&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">lebleu at prefer.net</A>&gt;
58 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>&gt;
59 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 12:18 PM
60 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Problems with services and ircd
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62
63 &gt;<i> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Tim Jung wrote:
64 </I>&gt;<i>
65 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yet if I run nothing but IRC/Services the machine crashes in 1-3 days.
66 </I>It
67 &gt;<i> &gt; doesn't make any sense other than there is no hardware problem or Linux
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; problem.
69 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; It would seem there is a problem with either the IRC server or Services
71 </I>or
72 &gt;<i> &gt; both of them running together. Until I can figure out which one is
73 </I>causing
74 &gt;<i> &gt; the problem or both, I can't run that copy of IRC or that copy of IRC
75 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Services. There is a definite problem with IRC and/or services.
76 </I>&gt;<i>
77 </I>&gt;<i> If any program can crash the system, there is a problem with your OS or
78 </I>&gt;<i> hardware. No matter how buggy the program is, a decent OS shouldn't let
79 </I>&gt;<i> it crash the system. Are you connecting IRC and services via the
80 </I>&gt;<i> localhost interface? What if you run irc and services on your machine,
81 </I>&gt;<i> but connect the ircd to services running on a remote machine, and the
82 </I>&gt;<i> services to ircd running on a remote machine? Perhaps it is an oddball
83 </I>&gt;<i> bug in the local loopback interface?
84 </I>&gt;<i>
85 </I>&gt;<i> There must be some part of your hardware or kernel that irc + services
86 </I>&gt;<i> accesses that other programs don't. Given the intensity of quake servers
87 </I>&gt;<i> on the network, I doubt it's a hardware problem though, because I
88 </I>&gt;<i> can't think of any piece of hardware services would use more... disk
89 </I>&gt;<i> access I suppose, but compiling services would be harder on disk than
90 </I>&gt;<i> running it... hmm... I haven't had any troubles with services on my P100
91 </I>&gt;<i> w/ 40 meg ram and 128 meg swap and kernel 2.0.36...
92 </I>&gt;<i>
93 </I>&gt;<i> --Kevin
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