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15 <B>Andrew Kempe</B>
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19 <I>Fri Sep 24 11:13:31 PDT 1999</I>
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34 <PRE>I have not had the chance to go through all the documentation, but I think
35 most references have been removed. Unfortunately, there are numerous other
36 references to &quot;EsperNet Services&quot; that our beyond my control - such as
37 websites, software archives etc.
38
39 Andrew
40
41 &gt;<i> -----Original Message-----
42 </I>&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">owner-ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
43 </I>&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">owner-ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>]On Behalf Of Ian R.
44 </I>&gt;<i> Justman
45 </I>&gt;<i> Sent: 24 September 1999 11:09
46 </I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
47 </I>&gt;<i> Subject: [IRCServices] Services information in documentation
48 </I>&gt;<i>
49 </I>&gt;<i>
50 </I>&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
51 </I>&gt;<i>
52 </I>&gt;<i>
53 </I>&gt;<i> Hi there, from the network who was the first to use this software. :)
54 </I>&gt;<i>
55 </I>&gt;<i> Is there any way to tone down the references to EsperNet in the
56 </I>&gt;<i> documentation and the source code? I periodically get requests for
57 </I>&gt;<i> support in #dragonweyr, EsperNet's official help channel, which I always
58 </I>&gt;<i> refer to Andy Church's page, &lt;A HREF=&quot;<A HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services&quot;">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services&quot;</A>&gt;<A HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services&lt;/A">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services&lt;/A</A>&gt;.
59 </I>&gt;<i>
60 </I>&gt;<i> Some of whom stubbornly--sometimes rudely--mitigate said requests by
61 </I>&gt;<i> saying they're not code questions, but operational questions, when in fact
62 </I>&gt;<i> the channel is solely for the use of our users, and operational questions
63 </I>&gt;<i> do entail the use of the code.
64 </I>&gt;<i>
65 </I>&gt;<i> I hope I haven't come off like I'm griping or anything, but some people do
66 </I>&gt;<i> not understand that while Services did have their start on EsperNet, our
67 </I>&gt;<i> administration channel is not the place to get support for it. Like the
68 </I>&gt;<i> other networks I see represented here, we're just another satisfied user
69 </I>&gt;<i> of the software.
70 </I>&gt;<i>
71 </I>&gt;<i> While our staff and I appreciate the recognition, we're IRC operators, and
72 </I>&gt;<i> any work that we do on the code we do is to get the code to run on our own
73 </I>&gt;<i> servers and for any customizations we might make for our own purposes and
74 </I>&gt;<i> of course, bugfixes where we see them. (Any bugfixes we'll be more than
75 </I>&gt;<i> happy to have rolled into the core source distribution.)
76 </I>&gt;<i>
77 </I>&gt;<i> However, I personally might try running the software under other
78 </I>&gt;<i> environments to which I have access for portability reasons and for
79 </I>&gt;<i> reasons of fun.
80 </I>&gt;<i>
81 </I>&gt;<i> Thanks. :)
82 </I>&gt;<i>
83 </I>&gt;<i> - --Ian R. Justman, Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network.
84 </I>&gt;<i>
85 </I>&gt;<i> P.S. Andy Church, Services' original author, is our other founder. (Hi,
86 </I>&gt;<i> Andy!)
87 </I>&gt;<i>
88 </I>&gt;<i> - -----
89 </I>&gt;<i> Ian R. Justman (NIC handle IJ12) <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ianj at esper.net</A> (Official
90 </I>&gt;<i> EsperNet business)
91 </I>&gt;<i> Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network
92 </I>&gt;<i> Server Administrator, chocobo.esper.net &quot;IJ&quot; on IRC
93 </I>&gt;<i>
94 </I>&gt;<i> PGP key available upon request, or finger <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ianj at esper.net.</A>
95 </I>&gt;<i>
96 </I>&gt;<i> If this message was signed with the Postmaster's key, please finger
97 </I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">postmaster at esper.net</A> for the Postmaster public key.
98 </I>&gt;<i>
99 </I>&gt;<i> Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID
100 </I>&gt;<i> pub 1024/BAB34B69 1997/11/15 EsperNet Postmaster &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">postmaster at esper.net</A>&gt;
101 </I>&gt;<i> Key fingerprint = 05 BD 7C B5 8E 0B FD EF EE 47 49
102 </I>&gt;<i> C4 96 11 59 75
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