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  17     <B>Saturn</B>
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  39 <PRE>[16:41] -NickServ-   Time registered: Jul 27 13:09:08 2002 PDT
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  41 That's what I see when I use it.  Yes, it does say &quot;PDT&quot; .. how many people
  42 in, say Belgium, are going to know exactly what PDT is?  How about &quot;PDT
  43 (GMT-8)&quot; as the format....?  Also, you'll note that it STILL gives no
  44 indication as to the CURRENT time ... this is why the proper UTC code or
  45 GMT+/-## is the best way to go IMHO.  I do also like the idea suggested by
  46 us44ever ... the &quot;(** days, ** minutes, and ** seconds ago)&quot; idea... that
  47 would be handy in any event.... and would eliminate the need for the current
  48 time to be displayed....
  49
  50 On another note, I had forgotten the set timezone option, which certainly
  51 would put more clarity on the output... however, I think my points above are
  52 valid ones...
  53
  54 Unless of course I've missed a config setting that will tell it to report
  55 the tiome zone as a function of GMT (plus or minus x hours, rather than zone
  56 codes like PDT)...
  57
  58 ----- Original Message -----
  59 From: &quot;Trevor Talbot&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">quension at mac.com</A>&gt;
  60 To: &quot;IRC Services Coding Mailing List&quot;
  61 &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
  62 Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:10 PM
  63 Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Re: [IRCServices] Yet,another great
  64 suggestion
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  66
  67 On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 13:47 US/Pacific, Saturn wrote:
  68
  69 &gt;<i> The argument is that the overwhelming majority of IRC users have no
  70 </I>&gt;<i> idea the /time command exists, and even fewer are aware that they can
  71 </I>&gt;<i> specify a server name after the /time command.  How would these people
  72 </I>&gt;<i> find out the Services time zone?
  73 </I>
  74 You missed the point.  Services shows the time zone wherever it uses a
  75 readable time -- i.e. in the nickserv/chanserv info displays.  Unless
  76 you've changed your language file, in which case you can simply change
  77 it back.
  78
  79 &gt;<i>   Why does it all have to be so complicated??
  80 </I>
  81 It isn't.  Your users can even use the handy-dandy /nickserv set
  82 timezone command to make it even easier.
  83
  84 &gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
  85 </I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Aragon Gouveia&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">aragon at phat.za.net</A>&gt;
  86 </I>
  87 &gt;<i> | By Saturn &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">saturn at jetirc.net</A>&gt;
  88 </I>&gt;<i> |                                          [ 2003-08-31 21:29 +0200 ]
  89 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it is... consider an international Network like mine:  every
  90 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> server is in a different time zone -- How are users supposed to know
  91 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> what time zone the Services (pickign on Services' clock because
  92 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Services are whats giving these notices!) is in??  Sure, they can do
  93 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> the /time command, if they even know abotu it.  But the vast majority
  94 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> of IRC users are ignorant of those sorts of commands, or even if they
  95 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> know about /time, they most likely have no idea they can specify a
  96 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> server with the command.
  97 </I>&gt;<i>
  98 </I>&gt;<i> Erm, what's the argument here?  Services stipulates its timezone in
  99 </I>&gt;<i> its timestamps.  As do all the other servers on the network.
 100 </I>
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