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15 <B>Craig McLure</B>
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19 <I>Sat Sep 21 22:32:54 PDT 2002</I>
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34 <PRE>heh, in that case, prevent registration with the same email twice? instead
35 of allowing it, invite them to use /ns link ;) then Mr. Bush will only
36 recieve 1 email.. and gets a nickname on an IRC Network if he wants it ;)
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38 &gt;<i>From: &quot;Marc-Andre A. Fuentes&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">nothing at psychopat.org</A>&gt;
39 </I>&gt;<i>Reply-To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>
40 </I>&gt;<i>To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
41 </I>&gt;<i>Subject: RE: [IRCServices Coding] Some IMHO usefull features
42 </I>&gt;<i>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:50:13 -0400 (EDT)
43 </I>&gt;<i>
44 </I>&gt;<i>maybe a blacklist of email could be usefull for mail domains like
45 </I>&gt;<i>&quot;whitehouse.gov&quot;
46 </I>&gt;<i>i don't think mr. bush would like to receive an auth code for another nick
47 </I>&gt;:<i>P
48 </I>&gt;<i>
49 </I>&gt;<i>On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Craig McLure wrote:
50 </I>&gt;<i>
51 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;From: &quot;Ekim Engin&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ekim.engin at stud.uni-karlsruhe.de</A>&gt;
52 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Reply-To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>
53 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
54 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Subject: RE: [IRCServices Coding] Some IMHO usefull features
55 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 04:53:03 +0200
56 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
57 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 1, Personally, I dont see the point in this. If you ban an
58 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; email block, they
59 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; will just find another 1. for example, you cant ban
60 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; *.hotmail.com on a
61 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; network, so the &quot;stupid kiddies&quot; will just use something like
62 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; that. Just
63 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; insert a largish reg delay, it would mean they would have to
64 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; change their
65 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; IP, or wait for something like 60mins before being able to
66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; register again.
67 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
69 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Huge proxy atacks, or even more DDOS atacks registering 1 nick per hour
70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;with 500 hosts is quite disturbing. Services is sending out many mails
71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;(to adresses that do not exist) and we get the bounces. I implemented
72 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;this feature on an earlier version of ircservices with the result, that
73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;the complete &quot;registration atack&quot; stopped. I reopend the ban 2 days
74 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;after, and the atack continued on same speed. Ist is based on a one
75 </I>&gt;<i>time
76 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;initialisation, spreadign out through a common used but backdoored
77 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;script. Once started it does the registering crap all the time.
78 </I>&gt;<i>Akilling
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;(or glineing) just results in the user getting banned. After he/she
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;comes back, the script continues registering. The only thing common to
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;this atacks is it uses alwas the same mail adresses. So I thought this
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;as quite usefull, it's just a suggestion after all.
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 2) Once again, i dont see a point for this feature. It would
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; make channels
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; prone to opwars, and takeovers. although the SUSPEND command
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; does do what
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; you ask, but i am unsure if it supports wildcards.
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Suspend does prevent registering AND using of the channel, while my
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;feature suggestion just prevents registering. We came up with this
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;feature afer every single channel gets registerd with
93 </I>&gt;<i>#ttnet_channelname
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;(the network is called TTNet). As it is our Network policy that
95 </I>&gt;<i>channels
96 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;starting with #ttnet may just be registerd by our network stuff, it is
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;quite annoying to stop/drop/suspend these channels all the time, while
98 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;with this feature does allow us to prevent this from scratch.
99 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
101 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; --
102 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Craig McLure
103 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">Craig at chatspike.net</A>
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Network Administrator of the ChatSpike IRC Network.
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; ChatSpike, the users network! www.chatspike.net
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107 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; The InspIRCd Project, The Next Generation in IRCds.. Alpha0
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Avaliable today!
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110 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
111 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________________
112 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:
113 </I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://mobile.msn.com">http://mobile.msn.com</A>
114 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
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118 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
119 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
120 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
121 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;+------------------------+------------------------+
122 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;| Talesin aka Ekim Engin | <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">talesin at tr-ircd.net</A> |
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131 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
132 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Once again, i see no way of preventing 1. If the feature is added to
133 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; services, a script like the following will be created:
134 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
135 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; alias spam {
136 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; :loop
137 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; set %nick $rand(0,999999)
138 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; set %email $rand(0,9999999)
139 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; set %pass $rand(0,9999999)
140 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; /nick $rand(a,z) $+ $rand(a,z) $+ $rand(A,Z) $+ $rand(a,z) $+ %nick
141 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; /ns register %pass %email $+ @hotmail.com
142 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; goto loop
143 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; }
144 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
145 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Its not likley that you can ban hotmail, as in excess 20% of any IRC
146 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Networks users usually have a hotmail accounts :P
147 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
148 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; although i agree with Suggestion 2.
149 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
150 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
151 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
152 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Craig McLure
153 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">Craig at chatspike.net</A>
154 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Network Administrator of the ChatSpike IRC Network.
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175 Craig McLure
176 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">Craig at chatspike.net</A>
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