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| 14 | <H1>AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?</H1> | |
| 15 | <B>Craig McLure</B> | |
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| 17 | TITLE="AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?">frostycoolslug at hotmail.com | |
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| 19 | <I>Wed Nov 14 23:30:00 PST 2001</I> | |
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| 34 | <PRE>on the network i was on before e-tidalwave, their main hub had a 400+ day | |
| 35 | uptime. The box wasnt tounched, so all i data (services, backup conf files | |
| 36 | etc) was *ALL* on there, and we eventually forgot about backups and deleted | |
| 37 | old ones. | |
| 38 | 5 days later (grrrrrrrr) the box went down. It started smoking, and | |
| 39 | everything was lost including the machine. | |
| 40 | ||
| 41 | now if backups can be automated *THRU* services, it will save the hastle of | |
| 42 | this. cron jobs are good, but some boxes dont support them. | |
| 43 | ||
| 44 | -- | |
| 45 | Craig McLure | |
| 46 | <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Craig at e-tidalwave.org</A> | |
| 47 | WaveAdmin on the e-tidalwave IRC Network | |
| 48 | Ride the Wave! www.e-tidalwave.org | |
| 49 | ||
| 50 | ||
| 51 | ||
| 52 | ><i>From: Duane Groth <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>> | |
| 53 | </I>><i>Reply-To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
| 54 | </I>><i>To: Josh <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>> | |
| 55 | </I>><i>Subject: Re[2]: AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases? | |
| 56 | </I>><i>Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:59:45 +1100 | |
| 57 | </I>><i> | |
| 58 | </I>><i>Hello Josh, | |
| 59 | </I>><i> | |
| 60 | </I>><i>Yes that's all good and well, but that is like having your head in the | |
| 61 | </I>><i>sand thinking nothing will ever happen, the server I do have them on | |
| 62 | </I>><i>currently has 100 days approx, last reboot was due to kernel upgrade, | |
| 63 | </I>><i>I'm merely preparing for the worst, in the event something will | |
| 64 | </I>><i>happen, I've been an ISP admin, and server admin too long to know | |
| 65 | </I>><i>better then to be naive about it all. | |
| 66 | </I>><i> | |
| 67 | </I>><i>-- | |
| 68 | </I>><i>Best regards, | |
| 69 | </I>><i> Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A> | |
| 70 | </I>><i> | |
| 71 | </I>><i>Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 11:51:10 PM, you wrote: | |
| 72 | </I>><i> | |
| 73 | </I>><i>J> On 14 Nov 2001, at 7:58, Duane Groth wrote: | |
| 74 | </I>><i> | |
| 75 | </I>><i>J> Its easier having 1 set of services on a really stable box that never | |
| 76 | </I>><i>J> goes down.. but thats only possible if you only have a few or just | |
| 77 | </I>><i>J> yourself knowing the ip to the hub and keep it that way by only | |
| 78 | </I>><i>J> adding c/n's to a couple other hubs and never link client servers | |
| 79 | </I>><i>J> directly to it. we have this setup on my net and it works well. | |
| 80 | </I>><i> | |
| 81 | </I>><i>J> (services hub ircd:) | |
| 82 | </I>><i>J> Server Up 169 days, 11:23:14 | |
| 83 | </I>><i> | |
| 84 | </I>><i> >> Hello Georges, | |
| 85 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 86 | </I>><i> >> As I said originally, I would like to see this feature purely for a | |
| 87 | </I>><i> >> redundancy point of view, as I have a reasonably setup IRC network, | |
| 88 | </I>><i> >> the DNS probes the IRC servers and removes dead server | |
| 89 | </I>><i> >> automatically, I have the IRC servers each setup with multiple hubs, | |
| 90 | </I>><i> >> so in the event of any one hub dying there is redundancy to keep the | |
| 91 | </I>><i> >> network together, however I am unable to think of a suitable way of | |
| 92 | </I>><i> >> making services redundant, and in the event of failure of the | |
| 93 | </I>><i> >> primary server that it's linking into the network with, for whatever | |
| 94 | </I>><i> >> reason, a secondary will kick in, with read only, so that people can | |
| 95 | </I>><i> >> authenticate, but not change details, this is the only single point | |
| 96 | </I>><i> >> of failure on my network that requires manual intervention. | |
| 97 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 98 | </I>><i> >> -- | |
| 99 | </I>><i> >> Best regards, | |
| 100 | </I>><i> >> Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A> | |
| 101 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 102 | </I>><i> >> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 7:45:01 AM, you wrote: | |
| 103 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 104 | </I>><i> >> GB> I like the idea of managing nicks through the browser, which is | |
| 105 | </I>><i>very much | |
| 106 | </I>><i> >> GB> more intuitive for many users who have no knowledge about IRC and | |
| 107 | </I>><i>only know | |
| 108 | </I>><i> >> GB> that they can type text into their client. | |
| 109 | </I>><i> >> GB> It is really intresting for very small networks who pretend to have | |
| 110 | </I>><i>a | |
| 111 | </I>><i> >> GB> 'community'. People will be able to share much more information | |
| 112 | </I>><i>when | |
| 113 | </I>><i> >> GB> registering their nick on the web. This registration can be passed | |
| 114 | </I>><i>on to | |
| 115 | </I>><i> >> GB> nickserv who uses the same information than in the Userinfo | |
| 116 | </I>><i>Database on the | |
| 117 | </I>><i> >> GB> web. | |
| 118 | </I>><i> >> GB> People will even be able to change their IRC-Settings in their | |
| 119 | </I>><i>browser. | |
| 120 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 121 | </I>><i> >> GB> It took me quite a number of hours to hack something like this into | |
| 122 | </I>><i>services | |
| 123 | </I>><i> >> GB> though, so I would appreciate if there was a possibility (i.e. | |
| 124 | </I>><i>interface) to | |
| 125 | </I>><i> >> GB> re-organise all this and make it a little more structured. | |
| 126 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 127 | </I>><i> >> GB> Georges | |
| 128 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 129 | </I>><i> >> GB> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- | |
| 130 | </I>><i> >> GB> Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
| 131 | </I>><i> >> GB> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von Craig | |
| 132 | </I>><i>McLure | |
| 133 | </I>><i> >> GB> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2001 21:28 | |
| 134 | </I>><i> >> GB> An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
| 135 | </I>><i> >> GB> Betreff: RE: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases? | |
| 136 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 137 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 138 | </I>><i> >> GB> Lol.. | |
| 139 | </I>><i> >> GB> MySQL, does that mean ppl will be able to reg nicks and manage | |
| 140 | </I>><i>nicks in | |
| 141 | </I>><i> >> GB> their web browser? | |
| 142 | </I>><i> >> GB> Interesting concept :P | |
| 143 | </I>><i> >> GB> But wouldn't that mean pw encryption? | |
| 144 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 145 | </I>><i> >> GB> -----Original Message----- | |
| 146 | </I>><i> >> GB> From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
| 147 | </I>><i> >> GB> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>] On Behalf Of Duane | |
| 148 | </I>><i>Groth | |
| 149 | </I>><i> >> GB> Sent: 13 November 2001 20:08 | |
| 150 | </I>><i> >> GB> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
| 151 | </I>><i> >> GB> Subject: Re: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases? | |
| 152 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 153 | </I>><i> >> GB> Hello, | |
| 154 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 155 | </I>><i> >> GB> No, but have the option of choosing MySQL for database, or using | |
| 156 | </I>><i> >> GB> it's own flat file format, the side benefit from this would be | |
| 157 | </I>><i>easier | |
| 158 | </I>><i> >> GB> web interfaces with PHP and the like, this unlike some simple | |
| 159 | </I>><i> >> GB> scripting has to be done in services itself. You should be using | |
| 160 | </I>><i>scp | |
| 161 | </I>><i> >> GB> or | |
| 162 | </I>><i> >> GB> similar for the remote archiving anyway, if you employ RSA/DSA | |
| 163 | </I>><i>keys | |
| 164 | </I>><i> >> GB> it's 1000x more secure, not to mention easier to script, hell you | |
| 165 | </I>><i> >> GB> can even setup your remote script to trigger tar/bzip, then the | |
| 166 | </I>><i>next | |
| 167 | </I>><i> >> GB> line to scp it off, so that you don't need to have 2 cron | |
| 168 | </I>><i>processes | |
| 169 | </I>><i> >> GB> going. | |
| 170 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 171 | </I>><i> >> GB> -- | |
| 172 | </I>><i> >> GB> Best regards, | |
| 173 | </I>><i> >> GB> Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A> | |
| 174 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 175 | </I>><i> >> GB> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 6:58:11 AM, you wrote: | |
| 176 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 177 | </I>><i> >> GB>> Re, | |
| 178 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 179 | </I>><i> >> GB>> well, MySQL support is nice, but not really suitable for everybody | |
| 180 | </I>><i> >> GB> (e.g. | |
| 181 | </I>><i> >> GB>> users that don't have a MySQL account). The FTP-Upload thing would | |
| 182 | </I>><i> >> GB> probably | |
| 183 | </I>><i> >> GB>> do the job for most people. | |
| 184 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 185 | </I>><i> >> GB> ----------------------------------------------------------- | |
| 186 | </I>><i> >> GB> To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
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| 188 | </I>><i> >> GB> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A> | |
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| 193 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 194 | </I>><i> >> GB> ----------------------------------------------------------- | |
| 195 | </I>><i> >> GB> To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
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| 197 | </I>><i> >> GB> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A> | |
| 198 | </I>><i> >> | |
| 199 | </I>><i> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- | |
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| 201 | </I>><i> >> with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail. | |
| 202 | </I>><i> >> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A> | |
| 203 | </I>><i> | |
| 204 | </I>><i> | |
| 205 | </I>><i>J> ------------------------------------- | |
| 206 | </I>><i>J> -- Josh Kirkorian [aka Poison-X] | |
| 207 | </I>><i>J> -- Administrator - irc.insiderz.net | |
| 208 | </I>><i> | |
| 209 | </I>><i>J> C Code. C code run. Run, code, run... | |
| 210 | </I>><i>J> Segmentation fault (core dumped).. aww shit | |
| 211 | </I>><i>J> ----------------------------------------------------------- | |
| 212 | </I>><i>J> To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A> | |
| 213 | </I>><i>J> with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail. | |
| 214 | </I>><i>J> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A> | |
| 215 | </I>><i><< smime.p7s >> | |
| 216 | </I> | |
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