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15 | <B>Andrew Church</B> | |
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34 | <PRE>><i>Imho, "modes lock" and "modes enforcement" are 2 different things. If | |
35 | </I>><i>they are separated, channel owners could decide not to enforce the | |
36 | </I>><i>modes, allowing for instance cmode +b be used to silence a user (as | |
37 | </I>><i>some irc servers don't allow messages from banned users) but still | |
38 | </I>><i>keep the banned user in the channel. Analogously, the same goes for | |
39 | </I>><i>cmode +r (identified to services only). Further, if configured by the | |
40 | </I>><i>services admin, services could act even more aggressively by kicking | |
41 | </I>><i>all users matching a ban not placed via the ban list in services but | |
42 | </I>><i>via /mode #chan +b mask, provided the channel has "modes enforcement | |
43 | </I>><i>on". The last extra isn't probably desirable for big production | |
44 | </I>><i>networks. | |
45 | </I>><i> | |
46 | </I>><i>Feel free to disagree with me, but propose something better instead, | |
47 | </I>><i>as my idea should be trivial to implement and is an acceptable | |
48 | </I>><i>compromise. | |
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50 | Okay, here's my proposal. The ChanServ "mode lock" functionality | |
51 | will enforce locked modes at all times, performing the following actions: | |
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53 | - When a client attempts to change the state of a locked mode (off to | |
54 | on, on to off, or changing parameters of an active mode), ChanServ | |
55 | will reverse the change. | |
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57 | - When a client joins an empty channel with one or modes locked on, | |
58 | those modes will be automatically set on the channel. | |
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60 | - If a client attempts to join a channel to which the mode lock denies | |
61 | them access, ChanServ will kickban the client from the channel. | |
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63 | If this enforcement is not desired, the mode lock functionality should not | |
64 | be used. | |
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66 | Conveniently, this is how Services already works. (: | |
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68 | --Andrew Church | |
69 | <A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> | |
70 | <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A> | |
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72 | P.S. If you disagree with my decision, you are of course free to write | |
73 | (and distribute, if you so choose) a patch. That's what open source is | |
74 | about, after all. You would, however, be well advised to consider the | |
75 | varied effects of netsplits and netjoins, particularly with respect to | |
76 | colliding channels and clients in them at netjoin time. | |
77 | </PRE> | |
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