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    <B>Partizanu</B> 
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    <I>Tue Mar 20 18:05:00 PST 2001</I>
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<PRE>a) Have NickServ sends a memo each time a nick is linked - inform the
nick owner that another nick was linked to his nick

b) Make an option to logging system adding switch-style on services.conf

NSLog +IPEL-RMA
R - registration
I - identification
M - manual drop
P - password change
E - email changed
L - links
A - access list add/del
Maybe the same for CSLog?

c) Have a &quot;Last Modif by&quot; on CS access list

And about password/email discussion:

1. Rezervation phase
/msg nickserv register mypass <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">my at email.address</A>
NickServ - Your nick is now reserved
NickServ - Please check <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">my at email.address</A> for instructions

Services sends a 'master-password' to <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">my at email.address</A>
Nick is now reserved, no one can register it for 24 h
Nick can't be added to access lists BUT it can be drop/forbid/suspend

2. Confirmation phase
/msg nickserv confirm &lt;master-password&gt;
NickServ - Your nick is now confirmed and register
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What problems solve this:
a) verify if the email address if it's a valide one or not
b) verify if the email address is actually 'reachable' for the user
c) prevent users register lots of nicks in a easy way
d) make sure user really wants that nick (is not a 'one night nick') -
why wait x days for a nick to expire in this case?
e) user can't change nick's passws without the 'master-passwd' - a
safety check never hurts
f) user can't change nicks's email address without the 'master-passwd' -
a safety check never hurts
(about (e) and (f) - I don't think users change their pass and mails so
often that this procedure become a pain
- let's keep in mind that passwd and email are important identification
elements - again a little safety measure won't hurt)
g) a user can loose his password, he will always be able to change it
useing the 'master-passwd'
h) a password can be stolen, the thief can't change it
i) it's unlikely that the 'master-passwd' can be taken (this is used
only once at registration and from time to time when changeing
passwd/email) - it's not used everytime like the current nick passwd


Hope it helps somehow,
Partizanu


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	34	<PRE>a) Have NickServ sends a memo each time a nick is linked - inform the
	35	nick owner that another nick was linked to his nick
	36
	37	b) Make an option to logging system adding switch-style on services.conf
	38
	39	NSLog +IPEL-RMA
	40	R - registration
	41	I - identification
	42	M - manual drop
	43	P - password change
	44	E - email changed
	45	L - links
	46	A - access list add/del
	47	Maybe the same for CSLog?
	48
	49	c) Have a "Last Modif by" on CS access list
	50
	51	And about password/email discussion:
	52
	53	1. Rezervation phase
	54	/msg nickserv register mypass <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">my at email.address</A>
	55	NickServ - Your nick is now reserved
	56	NickServ - Please check <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">my at email.address</A> for instructions
	57
	58	Services sends a 'master-password' to <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">my at email.address</A>
	59	Nick is now reserved, no one can register it for 24 h
	60	Nick can't be added to access lists BUT it can be drop/forbid/suspend
	61
	62	2. Confirmation phase
	63	/msg nickserv confirm <master-password>
	64	NickServ - Your nick is now confirmed and register
65	----------------
66	What problems solve this:
67	a) verify if the email address if it's a valide one or not
68	b) verify if the email address is actually 'reachable' for the user
69	c) prevent users register lots of nicks in a easy way
70	d) make sure user really wants that nick (is not a 'one night nick') -
71	why wait x days for a nick to expire in this case?
72	e) user can't change nick's passws without the 'master-passwd' - a
73	safety check never hurts
74	f) user can't change nicks's email address without the 'master-passwd' -
75	a safety check never hurts
76	(about (e) and (f) - I don't think users change their pass and mails so
77	often that this procedure become a pain
78	- let's keep in mind that passwd and email are important identification
79	elements - again a little safety measure won't hurt)
80	g) a user can loose his password, he will always be able to change it
81	useing the 'master-passwd'
82	h) a password can be stolen, the thief can't change it
83	i) it's unlikely that the 'master-passwd' can be taken (this is used
84	only once at registration and from time to time when changeing
85	passwd/email) - it's not used everytime like the current nick passwd
86
87
88	Hope it helps somehow,
89	Partizanu
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