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15 <B>lamego at ptlink.net</B>
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19 <I>Tue Dec 25 20:46:30 PST 2001</I>
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34<PRE>Andrew Church &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt; wrote :
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36&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is the Alpha distributed with some kind of &quot;not public&quot;
37</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; license ?
38</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I do know the term &quot;use it at your own risk&quot;, but this
39</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &quot;forbidden to use on a live network&quot; is a new one.
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41</I>&gt;<i> The license is the GPL, the same as it has always been, but the only
42</I>&gt;<i> reason I'm making it publicly available at all while it's still in alpha is
43</I>&gt;<i> to get help from _experienced_ users in fixing the remaining major problems
44</I>&gt;<i> before I take it to beta status and do a full-fledged release. (From the
45</I>&gt;<i> response I've seen so far I'm half inclined to take it down again.)
46</I>You are getting help from _experienced_ users however making it public you should be also prepared to get *NOT* help from general users.
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48</I>&gt;<i> &gt;So i think too
49</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Then i ask me, why a Alpha is Released to download from a Mainsite
50</I>&gt;<i> &gt;with a BIG Advertising link.
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52</I>&gt;<i> Because that's the only way to let people know who might want to help
53</I>&gt;<i> with an alpha test.
54</I>The guy was trying to help, but first he just needed some help :P
55&gt;<i>You might also note that there's a fairly large and
56</I>&gt;<i> obvious warning--on two consecutive pages, no less!--before you can
57</I>&gt;<i> actually download the alpha version.
58</I>One more reason that it is user's responsability so you should not be worried with someone running it on a live network.
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60</I>&gt;<i> Please remember that I have NO obligation whatsoever to provide any
61</I>&gt;<i> sort of &quot;service&quot; to you or even to publish IRC Services at all. The only
62</I>&gt;<i> thing I get out of Services is appreciation from users, which includes the
63</I>&gt;<i> recognition that I do this on my own free time without any sort of
64</I>&gt;<i> compensation other than the thanks of users for creating it. (Frankly, I
65</I>&gt;<i> would probably be a much happier person if I hadn't devoted many thousands
66</I>&gt;<i> of hours over six years to Services, but oh well.) You and all the guys who work on linux, gcc, gmake etc most of the software you need to compile and run ircservices. I don't remember none of them forbidding their alpha from beeing tested on &quot;live servers&quot;.
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68Thus, I do NOT
69&gt;<i> appreciate people ignoring warnings I put up explicitly to prevent these
70</I>&gt;<i> kinds of questions/complaints.
71</I>Sometimes the delete key is helpfull and not so stressing.
72&gt;<i>
73</I>&gt;<i> Please try to act more responsibly in the future. (That applies to
74</I>&gt;<i> everyone.)
75</I>Doing it now, I hope :)
76&gt;<i>
77</I>&gt;<i> --Andrew Church
78</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
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