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15 | <B>Nick Gawronski</B> | |
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34 | <PRE>Hi, It would be a nice thing just to remove the old version 4 database | |
35 | support as with xml export import features there is really no need for | |
36 | version 4 support. For now it is a nice thing to have for users who | |
37 | might want to still use the databases but really sometime soon it should | |
38 | be removed. Another thing I noticed is when I used the -export option | |
39 | and I already had another copy of services running it tried to start the | |
40 | httpd module and exitted with the bind error address already in use. I | |
41 | had to shutdown services, export the databases then restart version 5.0 | |
42 | again. It would be nice if the -export or -import is given services | |
43 | would just check and not load all of the modules just the ones for xml | |
44 | export and or import so the already runing copy would not need to be | |
45 | shutdown.On Thu, 17 May 2007, Andrew Church wrote: | |
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47 | ><i> >Hi, One thing I noticed is that the forceload option could be just added | |
48 | </I>><i> >into the main code rather then an option. If services sees corruption in | |
49 | </I>><i> >the databases it could just automatically load what ever it can understand | |
50 | </I>><i> >and ignore the rest of the database. This would also help when restarting | |
51 | </I>><i> >ircservices as if no one is at the system or needs to restart ircservices | |
52 | </I>><i> >it could take care of the databases itself rather then needing to login to | |
53 | </I>><i> >the system and run a binary. I could see this useful for ircops who don't | |
54 | </I>><i> >normally have access directly to the system where ircservices is running | |
55 | </I>><i> >but if they saw a need to restart ircservices they could do so with out | |
56 | </I>><i> >needing to contact the admin of the server if a database would not load | |
57 | </I>><i> >and services would not start. | |
58 | </I>><i> | |
59 | </I>><i> The problem with this (and the reason -forceload is not the default | |
60 | </I>><i> in the first place) is that if some part of the database is corrupt, | |
61 | </I>><i> there's no telling how bad the situation is. In the worst case, Services | |
62 | </I>><i> could be unable to load any data, then overwrite your database files with | |
63 | </I>><i> empty databases, destroying any chance you had of retrieving the data via | |
64 | </I>><i> other means (such as writing a program to extract the data). | |
65 | </I>><i> | |
66 | </I>><i> In any case, -forceload is only supported for the database/version4 | |
67 | </I>><i> module, and there only for certain databases (a corrupt oper.db, for | |
68 | </I>><i> example, will cause Services to abort whether -forceload is given or not). | |
69 | </I>><i> Moreover, due to the format of those database files, it's unlikely you'd | |
70 | </I>><i> be able to recover any data anyway under most circumstances. I probably | |
71 | </I>><i> ought to just get rid of the option entirely. | |
72 | </I>><i> | |
73 | </I>><i> --Andrew Church | |
74 | </I>><i> <A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> | |
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