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- <H1>AW: [IRCServices] Wierd message...</H1>
- <B>Yusuf Iskenderoglu</B>
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- <I>Tue Feb 27 01:11:01 PST 2001</I>
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-<PRE>I take my words back.
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-1- :NickName SJOIN epoch #channel is correct
-2- I have not been correctly informed.
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-|<i> Yusuf Iskenderoglu | You get to meet all sorts, |
-</I>|<i> eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de</A> | in this line of work... |
-</I>|<i> eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">s_iskend at ira.uka.de</A> | |
-</I>|<i> ICQ UIN : 20587464 \ TimeMr14C | |
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-><i> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
-</I>><i> Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
-</I>><i> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von Yusuf
-</I>><i> Iskenderoglu
-</I>><i> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2001 00:04
-</I>><i> An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
-</I>><i> Betreff: AW: [IRCServices] Wierd message...
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-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> No,
-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> :NickName SJOIN #channel epoch
-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> does not use creation time, it is the actual time, to tell when a JOIN
-</I>><i> has been issued.
-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> The Creation Time is sent with the channel definition SJOIN:
-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> :ServerName SJOIN epoch #channel modes [param, param] :nicks.
-</I>><i> That epoch is the creation time, for during a netburst, users,
-</I>><i> which will be introduced
-</I>><i> to the connecting server, will (shall) look, as if they are
-</I>><i> joining at that time.
-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> That means, it is safe to use time(NULL), because ChanServ will
-</I>><i> JOIN later than the user itself.
-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> Regards;
-</I>><i> yusuf
-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-</I>><i> | Yusuf Iskenderoglu | You get to meet all sorts, |
-</I>><i> | eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de</A> | in this line of work... |
-</I>><i> | eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">s_iskend at ira.uka.de</A> | |
-</I>><i> | ICQ UIN : 20587464 \ TimeMr14C | |
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-</I>><i>
-</I>><i> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
-</I>><i> > Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
-</I>><i> > [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von Andrew
-</I>><i> > Church
-</I>><i> > Gesendet: Montag, 26. Februar 2001 23:41
-</I>><i> > An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
-</I>><i> > Betreff: Re: AW: [IRCServices] Wierd message...
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-</I>><i> >
-</I>><i> > >But the reality is, that daemons, which use SJOIN, do not like remote
-</I>><i> > >users (in this case, a user from services : ChanServ)
-</I>><i> > >directly sending a JOIN, because only a SJOIN is being expected.
-</I>><i> > >Server to server communications is done via SJOINs. That is an
-</I>><i> > >issue which might be corrected, though not necessary, by modifying
-</I>><i> > >check_kick to something like
-</I>><i> > >
-</I>><i> > >#if defined(IRC_BAHAMUT)
-</I>><i> > > send_cmd(s_ChanServ, "SJOIN %s %lu", chan, time(NULL));
-</I>><i> > >#else
-</I>><i> > > send_cmd(s_ChanServ, "JOIN %s", chan);
-</I>><i> > >#endif
-</I>><i> > >
-</I>><i> > >where if(stay) is being evaluated.
-</I>><i> >
-</I>><i> > The problem with doing things this way is that in order to do it
-</I>><i> > properly we need to use the channel creation timestamp sent in the
-</I>><i> > original SJOIN command--but since the channel hasn't actually been
-</I>><i> > created in Services' lists, we don't have that available. Services
-</I>><i> > could be rewritten to use SJOIN properly in this way, but since JOIN
-</I>><i> > works just as well, I don't see any reason to. If the messages bother
-</I>><i> > you, filter them out in your script.
-</I>><i> >
-</I>><i> > --Andrew Church
-</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> | New address - please note.
-</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A> | \e$B%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$,JQ$o$j$^$7$?!#\e(B
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