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-    <B>Jason farklem</B> 
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-<PRE>Thank you very much Andrew.  I do have on last question that I forgot to ask
-earlier.  Is it possible to see the source of a channel kick with the
-&quot;channel KICK&quot; callback? Basicly the user that did the kick is what I am
-referring to.
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-On 3/29/06, Andrew Church &lt;<A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;1.  I can't find out how to get the channel mode changes that were made
-</I>&gt;<i> to
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;the channel using the &quot;channel mode change&quot; callback:
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;static int do_channel_mode_change(const char *source, Channel *c);
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i>      The callback only informs you of the fact that the modes have
-</I>&gt;<i> changed.
-</I>&gt;<i> If you want to know exactly what has changed, you'll need to keep your own
-</I>&gt;<i> copy of the modes (c-&gt;mode) for each channel.  I may change this for 5.1.
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;2.  This module logs user joins but everytime ircservices starts up, the
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;join callback is called for each user that is allready in the channel.  I
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;tried using is_on_chan() but I guess until services has fully started up,
-</I>&gt;<i> it
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;doesn't realize that the users are in the channel.
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i>      This is because of the way IRC works: when a server joins the
-</I>&gt;<i> network,
-</I>&gt;<i> all users are treated as if they had just joined the channels they are in.
-</I>&gt;<i> There's no way around this without rewriting the IRC protocol.
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i>   --Andrew Church
-</I>&gt;<i>     <A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
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