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-    <B>Craig McLure</B> 
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-<PRE>Unreal uses /sajoin and /sapart, these seem to work fine without services 
-worrying :)
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-&gt;<i>From: &quot;Russell Garrett&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">rg at tcslon.com</A>&gt;
-</I>&gt;<i>Reply-To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>
-</I>&gt;<i>To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
-</I>&gt;<i>Subject: RE: [IRCServices Coding] Raw
-</I>&gt;<i>Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:12:05 +0100
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-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /operserv raw :nickserv SVSPART joHnny #Hanson,#pr0n
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i>Services doesn't process that, so services would still think joHnny is in
-</I>&gt;<i>those channels, even if he isn't. So if you try and do something to that
-</I>&gt;<i>channel which involves that user, services may complain, or even crash.
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i>Unreal has a /svspart command I believe. Use that instead.
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; One other thing. I'm using Unreal3.2 and in the /lusers operator count 
-</I>&gt;<i>it
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; includes the services. Yes they do get remotely set +O but...
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /operserv raw :chanserv SVSMODE nickserv -o
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would therefore be deopering all the various services. Does
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this matter as
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it concerns certain users when they see such a high operator count? 
-</I>&gt;<i>Would
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; they work the same as before? Just wondering because services
-</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have a U:line.
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i>Services pseudo-clients still need opers on some servers, I don't think
-</I>&gt;<i>Unreal is one of them. Your best bet is to try it extensively on a test
-</I>&gt;<i>server first.
-</I>&gt;<i>
-</I>&gt;<i>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-</I>&gt;<i>Russ Garrett                                             
-</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">russ at garrett.co.uk.</A>
-</I>&gt;<i>                                                   
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