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+    <B>Craig McLure</B> 
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+       TITLE="[IRCServices] How to control the services?">Craig at frostycoolslug.com
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+    <I>Fri Nov 25 05:20:27 PST 2005</I>
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+<PRE>I'll elaborate a bit, Services doesn't know it exists, none of the 
+pseudoclients are stored in the user struct, so in the event that a 
+service DOES join a channel (Generally via /os raw :ChanServ join 
+#channel), the services server will know nothing about it. This can 
+sometimes lead to unexpected results especially if everyone leaves the 
+channel (Services will think the channel is completely empty, when the 
+IRCd is saying &quot;There's one person in here&quot; (hence desync). When someone 
+then joins the channel services will try setting modes and topics which 
+already exist which may lead to problems (Although personally I've never 
+experienced any).
+
+You can try it, there shouldn't be any problems, but if something blows 
+up in your face don't say you weren't warned.
+
+Also a reminder, /os raw is completely unsupported by anyone because it 
+will generally lead to desyncs :)
+
+DeadNotBuried wrote:
+&gt;<i> Carl wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, is there any way to get the services, mainly Chanserv, to join a 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> channel?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> no (at least not without desyncing services)
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