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+ <H1>[IRCServices] How to control the services?</H1>
+ <B>Craig McLure</B>
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+ TITLE="[IRCServices] How to control the services?">Craig at frostycoolslug.com
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+ <I>Fri Nov 25 05:20:27 PST 2005</I>
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+<PRE>I'll elaborate a bit, Services doesn't know it exists, none of the
+pseudoclients are stored in the user struct, so in the event that a
+service DOES join a channel (Generally via /os raw :ChanServ join
+#channel), the services server will know nothing about it. This can
+sometimes lead to unexpected results especially if everyone leaves the
+channel (Services will think the channel is completely empty, when the
+IRCd is saying "There's one person in here" (hence desync). When someone
+then joins the channel services will try setting modes and topics which
+already exist which may lead to problems (Although personally I've never
+experienced any).
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+You can try it, there shouldn't be any problems, but if something blows
+up in your face don't say you weren't warned.
+
+Also a reminder, /os raw is completely unsupported by anyone because it
+will generally lead to desyncs :)
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+DeadNotBuried wrote:
+><i> Carl wrote:
+</I>>><i> Also, is there any way to get the services, mainly Chanserv, to join a
+</I>>><i> channel?
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> no (at least not without desyncing services)
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