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+ <H1>[IRCServices] Question on usage of ChanServ ACCESS LIST</H1>
+ <B>PHANTOm</B>
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+ <I>Fri Sep 3 01:40:08 PDT 2004</I>
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+<PRE>On my network users who seek information from AKICK list will usually
+request the full list or some kind of wildcard, almost none use
+numbers for this command.
+The access list command is commonly accessed by numbers but is access
+by wildcards as well.
+The os_akill command usually being accesses by wildcards to find
+something specific but if an admin wants to view all results he may
+use numbers to see next range, this may be replaced by some "next"
+command.
+The nickserv/chanserv list commands i think should be used the same
+way (wildcards + first/prev/next/last commands), numbers in this case
+may help not loose track when jumping between many pages and may also
+help if new features will be developed (like dropnick with nick number
+instead of the nickname, although this may be dangerous).
+same goes for listemail.
+
+I think since I use numbers mostly for navigation an alternative
+method would eliminate the need for numbers.
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+On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 13:26:19 JST, Andrew Church <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>> wrote:
+><i> I'm currently working on unifying the usage formats of the various
+</I>><i> LIST-type commands available in Services (LIST, ACCESS LIST, AKILL LIST,
+</I>><i> etc.), and I'd like to get some information about how the commands,
+</I>><i> ChanServ's ACCESS (and AKICK) LIST in particular, are currently being used.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> In Services 5.0, there are three different styles of LIST command:
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> - NickServ ACCESS LIST:
+</I>><i> LIST (no parameters, unlimited)
+</I>><i> - NickServ LIST/LISTEMAIL, ChanServ LIST, OperServ AKILL/EXCLUDE/SxLINE LIST:
+</I>><i> LIST <wildcard-mask> (limited to NSListMax, CSListMax, or 50 entries)
+</I>><i> - ChanServ ACCESS/AKICK LIST, OperServ EXCEPTION LIST:
+</I>><i> LIST {<wildcard-mask> | <number-list>}
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> I won't go into detail since discussion of development versions is
+</I>><i> off-topic for this list, but I'm working on merging all of these into a
+</I>><i> common format. The major issue is how to handle numbered and numberless
+</I>><i> lists; the easiest thing to do is simply to drop support for using a number
+</I>><i> list with the LIST command, but I don't want to do that if it's a
+</I>><i> frequently-used feature. So:
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> (1) How do you (or your users, if you're an admin and aware of usage
+</I>><i> patterns) usually use the ChanServ ACCESS LIST and AKICK LIST commands:
+</I>><i> just plain LIST, LIST with a wildcard, or LIST with a list/range of
+</I>><i> numbers?
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> (2) Would you object to having the ability to use numbers with the
+</I>><i> LIST command removed? (The numbers would still be usable with DEL.)
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> As a side note, the issue of whether to add numbers to lists that
+</I>><i> don't currently have them--nickname access lists, autokill lists, and so
+</I>><i> on--has been brought up before. I haven't decided yet whether to do that,
+</I>><i> but it's a separate issue from this one, so please don't discuss it in
+</I>><i> this thread.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> --Andrew Church
+</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>
+</I>><i> <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
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