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+    <B>M</B> 
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+       TITLE="[IRCServices] secure Identify Feature..">mark at ctcp.net
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+    <I>Tue Apr 13 16:08:45 PDT 2004</I>
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+<PRE>Craig McLure wrote:
+&gt;<i> This command would add things to make the channel more secure 
+</I>&gt;<i> thou, If you did give the channel founder password to people 
+</I>&gt;<i> you trust, and you find its being abused, you can simply 
+</I>&gt;<i> remove that person from the access list, this way you dont 
+</I>&gt;<i> need to worry about changing the password and re-distributing it :) 
+</I>
+The way to be secure is not to give out the founder password. You could
+apply the same short sighted reason for a &quot;/ns set
+letotherpeopleaccessmynick pass&quot; request. 
+
+The founder password is designed to give the channel founder access to
+manage the ownership of the channel. There is no need to give out the
+password to anyone, channel management through others is provided via op
+status. 
+
+If for some peculiar reason a channel founder wishes to share the password
+then IMO that is their problem. The chances are that any user that would
+require modifying the access list to &quot;fix&quot; this, would likely be attempted
+too late since a rogue user could have merely taken ownership of the channel
+thereby making the option and the founder password redundant and merely make
+it a problem that administrators waste time on. 
+
+The founder can already provide access to whatever commands an op needs via
+levels which is far more secure and already subject to access list
+restrictions. 
+
+What function of founder status is required that warrants removing the
+founder status by supporting sharing of it? 
+
+M. 
+
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