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+    <B>Arathorn</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:ircservices%40ircservices.za.net?Subject=%5BIRCServices%5D%20unhappy%20restart%20quirks%20with%205.0.9&In-Reply-To="
+       TITLE="[IRCServices] unhappy restart quirks with 5.0.9">arathorn at theonering.net
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I just upgraded from 4.5.43 to 5.0.9 (at last!) for use with unreal 3.2b14
+and have so far been very pleased with the transition.  After a few days
+of use I've found a few unexpected pieces of behaviour which I'm confused
+about:
+
+Firstly, on an /msg operserv shutdown, services SQUITs from the ircd - but
+then on almost all occasions the binary continues to run, and will not be
+killed by any signal short of a KILL (-9).
+
+On a related note, /msg operserv restart normally fails in precisely the
+same manner - but on the one occasion that it came straight back up, all
+registered channels with a +k mode in their modelock had mysteriously lost
+their +k and key.  Which was a bit of a pain ;)
+
+Moreover, whilst users in the channel access lists were correctly reopped
+on reidentifying on the server coming back up - in every channel a random
+user also acquired an @.  On being deopped, Chanserv once again enforced
+the secureops correctly and refused to let them be reopped. Almost all the
+channels have Options: Topic Retention, Secure Ops.  Even more
+disturbingly, not all users on the channel were able to see the @ that the
+mysteriously-opped user had acquired. (Either in the form of a channel
+mode +o event or similar).
+
+Finally, in the WhatsNew for services v5, I was overjoyed to see:
+
+  + The Services stamp of the last user to identify for a nick is now
+        recorded on disk, removing the necessity to re-identify when
+        Services is restarted.
+
+But so far, when /msg operserv restart works at all - everyone is forced
+to reidentify nonetheless (combined with the quirks listed above).  So I'm
+guessing that there's something going wrong here.
+
+On a final possibly unrelated note, I've also been getting
+
+[Mon Feb  3 23:23:24 2003] - select irc.theonering.net[127.0.0.1]:Bad file descriptor
+
+error messages popping up in Unreal's ircd.log every 2-16 hours or so.
+As services is the only thing connected to a fd on 127.0.0.1, I'm
+wondering if there's a connection here to the above problem.
+
+This is all happening on a dual PIII 1.26GHz box running Debian Woody with
+a 2.4.18 kernel; everything compiled with gcc 2.95.4 (unreal compiled with
+not default linux threads, fwiw).  It's all worked perfectly with
+IRCServices 4.3.x, 4.5.x coupled with df467 and unreal 3.1.x on precisely
+the same hardware.
+
+Any help would be very much appreciated;
+
+cheers,
+
+A.
+
+_________________________________________
+Matthew Hodgson   <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">arathorn at theonering.net</A>
+  Arathorn: Co-Sysadmin, TheOneRing.net&#174;
+
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