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+ <H1>AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?</H1>
+ <B>Duane Groth</B>
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+ TITLE="AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?">duane at groth.net
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+ <I>Wed Nov 14 22:01:00 PST 2001</I>
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+<PRE>Hello Josh,
+
+Yes that's all good and well, but that is like having your head in the
+sand thinking nothing will ever happen, the server I do have them on
+currently has 100 days approx, last reboot was due to kernel upgrade,
+I'm merely preparing for the worst, in the event something will
+happen, I've been an ISP admin, and server admin too long to know
+better then to be naive about it all.
+
+--
+Best regards,
+ Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
+
+Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 11:51:10 PM, you wrote:
+
+J> On 14 Nov 2001, at 7:58, Duane Groth wrote:
+
+J> Its easier having 1 set of services on a really stable box that never
+J> goes down.. but thats only possible if you only have a few or just
+J> yourself knowing the ip to the hub and keep it that way by only
+J> adding c/n's to a couple other hubs and never link client servers
+J> directly to it. we have this setup on my net and it works well.
+
+J> (services hub ircd:)
+J> Server Up 169 days, 11:23:14
+
+>><i> Hello Georges,
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> As I said originally, I would like to see this feature purely for a
+</I>>><i> redundancy point of view, as I have a reasonably setup IRC network,
+</I>>><i> the DNS probes the IRC servers and removes dead server
+</I>>><i> automatically, I have the IRC servers each setup with multiple hubs,
+</I>>><i> so in the event of any one hub dying there is redundancy to keep the
+</I>>><i> network together, however I am unable to think of a suitable way of
+</I>>><i> making services redundant, and in the event of failure of the
+</I>>><i> primary server that it's linking into the network with, for whatever
+</I>>><i> reason, a secondary will kick in, with read only, so that people can
+</I>>><i> authenticate, but not change details, this is the only single point
+</I>>><i> of failure on my network that requires manual intervention.
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> --
+</I>>><i> Best regards,
+</I>>><i> Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 7:45:01 AM, you wrote:
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> I like the idea of managing nicks through the browser, which is very much
+</I>>><i> GB> more intuitive for many users who have no knowledge about IRC and only know
+</I>>><i> GB> that they can type text into their client.
+</I>>><i> GB> It is really intresting for very small networks who pretend to have a
+</I>>><i> GB> 'community'. People will be able to share much more information when
+</I>>><i> GB> registering their nick on the web. This registration can be passed on to
+</I>>><i> GB> nickserv who uses the same information than in the Userinfo Database on the
+</I>>><i> GB> web.
+</I>>><i> GB> People will even be able to change their IRC-Settings in their browser.
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> It took me quite a number of hours to hack something like this into services
+</I>>><i> GB> though, so I would appreciate if there was a possibility (i.e. interface) to
+</I>>><i> GB> re-organise all this and make it a little more structured.
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> Georges
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
+</I>>><i> GB> Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>>><i> GB> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von Craig McLure
+</I>>><i> GB> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2001 21:28
+</I>>><i> GB> An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>>><i> GB> Betreff: RE: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> Lol..
+</I>>><i> GB> MySQL, does that mean ppl will be able to reg nicks and manage nicks in
+</I>>><i> GB> their web browser?
+</I>>><i> GB> Interesting concept :P
+</I>>><i> GB> But wouldn't that mean pw encryption?
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> -----Original Message-----
+</I>>><i> GB> From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>>><i> GB> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>] On Behalf Of Duane Groth
+</I>>><i> GB> Sent: 13 November 2001 20:08
+</I>>><i> GB> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>>><i> GB> Subject: Re: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> Hello,
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> No, but have the option of choosing MySQL for database, or using
+</I>>><i> GB> it's own flat file format, the side benefit from this would be easier
+</I>>><i> GB> web interfaces with PHP and the like, this unlike some simple
+</I>>><i> GB> scripting has to be done in services itself. You should be using scp
+</I>>><i> GB> or
+</I>>><i> GB> similar for the remote archiving anyway, if you employ RSA/DSA keys
+</I>>><i> GB> it's 1000x more secure, not to mention easier to script, hell you
+</I>>><i> GB> can even setup your remote script to trigger tar/bzip, then the next
+</I>>><i> GB> line to scp it off, so that you don't need to have 2 cron processes
+</I>>><i> GB> going.
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> --
+</I>>><i> GB> Best regards,
+</I>>><i> GB> Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 6:58:11 AM, you wrote:
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB>> Re,
+</I>>><i>
+</I>>><i> GB>> well, MySQL support is nice, but not really suitable for everybody
+</I>>><i> GB> (e.g.
+</I>>><i> GB>> users that don't have a MySQL account). The FTP-Upload thing would
+</I>>><i> GB> probably
+</I>>><i> GB>> do the job for most people.
+</I>>><i>
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+J> -------------------------------------
+J> -- Josh Kirkorian [aka Poison-X]
+J> -- Administrator - irc.insiderz.net
+
+J> C Code. C code run. Run, code, run...
+J> Segmentation fault (core dumped).. aww shit
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