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+ <H1>[IRCServices] Question about possible future feature
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+ <B>Fox Moss</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 22 18:00:05 PDT 2001</I>
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+<PRE>so the question is if we are looking for something like "X" in UnderNet or
+dumb bots
+
+I'd go for dumb bots, X in undernet just keeps the channels open because of
+the absence of services. and we've got the almighty chanserv ;p
+
+Fox
+
+At 10:18 ðì 22-06-01 +0000, you wrote:
+
+><i>Okay, both ideas have their pros and cons, it
+</I>><i>all depends on what you want from Services.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i>In either case, an option to NOT have whatever
+</I>><i>is chosen would be a very good idea.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i>With the screen idea, it's not that hard to code
+</I>><i>and if all you want is a simple 'dumb' bot to
+</I>><i>keep a channel open when there are no users in it
+</I>><i>that's fine. If however you want something more
+</I>><i>like an interactive 'clone' of ChanServ, then the
+</I>><i>BotServ idea is the way to go.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i>Personally, I'm more likely to go with the BotServ
+</I>><i>idea, this is simply because users are always
+</I>><i>asking for ways that their channels can stay open
+</I>><i>24/7 without them having to spend money, learn
+</I>><i>UNIX/Eggdrop/etc... BotServ would most likely
+</I>><i>fit the bill for that. Perhaps have a limit as
+</I>><i>to how many users a channel MUST have before a
+</I>><i>Botserv bot can join? I believe Epona services
+</I>><i>has the botserv feature in it. Perhaps looking
+</I>><i>at that and perhaps compromising between the
+</I>><i>screen idea and the botserv idea would be a
+</I>><i>better idea overall for Services and it's users?
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i>In the end, the decision lies with the coders of
+</I>><i>IRCServices and the users of IRCServices.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i>Just my rant for today... (maybe)
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i>Quinn
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> >and why is that?
+</I>><i> >
+</I>><i> >they get rid of the thousands of screen requests by users by having a=20
+</I>><i> >chanserv screen command as I said
+</I>><i> >
+</I>><i> >Fox
+</I>><i> >
+</I>><i> >At 07:09 =F0=EC 22-06-01 +0000, you wrote:
+</I>><i> >>As long as there is a way of not having it, i'm happy :p It appears the=20
+</I>><i> >>NetAdmins on our Net dont seem to want it.
+</I>><i> >>
+</I>><i> >>
+</I>><i> >>>From: "[Real]" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">RealCFC at ChatFIRST.COM</A>>
+</I>><i> >>>Reply-To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>><i> >>>To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>>
+</I>><i> >>>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Question about possible future feature=
+</I>><i> > (BotServ)
+</I>><i> >>>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:04:38 -0700
+</I>><i> >>>
+</I>><i> >>>I would really love to see some kind of BotServ included in future=20
+</I>><i> >>>versions of services, either a module or a default services new feature.
+</I>><i> >>>We do also run a fake user to act like a bot in some channels.
+</I>><i> >>>Ely
+</I>><i> >>> ----- Original Message -----
+</I>><i> >>> From: Strider
+</I>><i> >>> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>><i> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:17 PM
+</I>><i> >>> Subject: [IRCServices] Question about possible future feature
+</I>><i> >>>
+</I>><i> >>>
+</I>><i> >>> Will there be a botserv or similar functions in services 5.0? I noticed
+</I>><i> >>> quite a few (including us) use operserv raw (cept we do it through a=20
+</I>><i> >>> hack to
+</I>><i> >>> services instead of just doing /operserv raw) to create virtual users=
+</I>><i> > to
+</I>><i> >>> hold channels open. Maybe this can be expanded on where they act like
+</I>><i> >>> chanserv, or maybe a module could be written or something. It'd be a=
+</I>><i> > nice
+</I>><i> >>> feature to actually have with services rather than have to make sure=
+</I>><i> > our
+</I>><i> >>> hack works with each update we do (we try to only update when a major=
+</I>><i> >=20
+</I>><i> >>> bug is
+</I>><i> >>> being fixed for this reason). If this is too=20
+</I>><i> >>> confusing...ummm...well...I'll
+</I>><i> >>> try to expand on it if I need to.
+</I>><i> >>>
+</I>><i> >>> Beau (Strider) Steward
+</I>><i> >>> chatcircuit administrator and 6bit band member
+</I>><i> >>> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at chatcircuit.com</A> www.chatcircuit.com
+</I>><i> >>> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircadmin at chatcircuit.com</A> irc.chatcircuit.com
+</I>><i> >>> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at 6bit.net</A> www.6bit.net
+</I>><i> >>>
+</I>><i> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------
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+</I>><i> >>> with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail.
+</I>><i> >>> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A>
+</I>><i> >>
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+</I>><i> >
+</I>><i> >
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