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+    <B>Andrew Kempe</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:ircservices%40ircservices.za.net?Subject=%5BIRCServices%5D%20Services%204.5.11%20released&In-Reply-To="
+       TITLE="[IRCServices] Services 4.5.11 released">andrewk at icon.co.za
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+    <I>Tue Apr 10 06:12:01 PDT 2001</I>
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+<PRE>No one is forcing you to upgrade. The coders can only go so far to test the
+changes. The only real way to testing to find bugs is to release a version
+of the program and then wait for feedback. If you want to live on the
+bleeding edge, you have to expect to get cut or to atleast patch up often.
+IRC Services version 4.5, if you take a quick glance at the Changes file,
+was quite a major release. One just needs to wait for this to become a
+stable release. The only way it's going to get there is with testing and
+with patches.
+
+Andrew
+
+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;Strider&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at chatcircuit.com</A>&gt;
+To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
+Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 5:12 PM
+Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Services 4.5.11 released
+
+
+&gt;<i> If this were, say, xmms or licq, I would have less problems updating it
+</I>&gt;<i> weekly. I would prefer the bugs to be worked out. But until they are
+</I>worked
+&gt;<i> out, I don't plan on updating services. It would be too much of a hassle
+</I>on
+&gt;<i> me, the other opers, and the users on the server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Beau (Strider) Steward
+</I>&gt;<i> chatcircuit administrator and 6bit band member
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at chatcircuit.com</A>        www.chatcircuit.com
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircadmin at chatcircuit.com</A>     irc.chatcircuit.com
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at 6bit.net</A>                    www.6bit.net
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:56 AM
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.5.11 released
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      Services 4.5.11 has been released, and can be downloaded from:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5.11.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5.11.tar.gz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5.11.diff.gz">ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5.11.diff.gz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      This release (hopefully) fixes the bug many people have reported
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with Services not allowing chanops on remote servers to register
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; channels when using Unreal; I'm sorry it took this long to get it out,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but my job is keeping me busy of late, and of course the job takes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; precedence over Services.  Please report any problems, as I haven't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; had time to test the change sufficiently.  Note that this change does
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not affect any servers other than Unreal.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      To the person who commented on the frequency of Services
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; releases:  Would you rather I leave the bugs as is?  (By the way, the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bugs being fixed are almost all bugs that were present in 4.4.8 as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; well, so you're better off with the latest 4.5.x in any case.)  I do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; try to make a note, as above, when any &quot;official&quot; release may have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; instabilities.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      The Changes file for 4.5.11 is as follows:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2001/04/09 .11 Eliminated bogus srealloc() warnings.  Reported by Yusuf
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     Iskenderoglu &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2001/04/09 Added SJ3 support for Unreal to fix problems reported with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     registering channels on remote servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2001/04/08 Fixed NickServ LINK help message to remove incorrect
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     comment about linking nicks.  Reported by Andrew Vestal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andrewv at stanford.edu</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   --Andrew Church
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> | New address - please note.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A> | \e$B%a!&lt;%k%&quot;%I%l%9$,JQ$o$j$^$7$?!#\e(B
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -----------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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