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+ <H1>[IRCServices] About new Version...</H1>
+ <B>Andrew Kempe</B>
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+ TITLE="[IRCServices] About new Version...">andrewk at icon.co.za
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+ <I>Mon Jul 17 09:06:10 PDT 2000</I>
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+<PRE>ok folks, time to move to ircservices-coding.
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+Thanks, Andrew
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+----- Original Message -----
+From: "Jonathan George" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">jonathan at lite.net</A>>
+To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at delirious.shadowfire.org</A>>
+Cc: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">anarki at flaimebait.org</A>>; <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">chromi at cyberspace.org</A>>
+Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 5:19 PM
+Subject: Re: [IRCServices] About new Version...
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+
+><i> I've implemented this before in two IRC-based projects I've done.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> Your best bet is to use popen(3) to open sendmail, and then just
+</I>><i> write the email to the given pipe. This has it's advantages because:
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> a) You don't have to read() from the pipe.
+</I>><i> b) You don't have to try to send email again if the first one
+</I>><i> bounces.
+</I>><i> c) Generally most popular MTA's (Qmail is a definite one) include
+</I>><i> a drop-in sendmail replacement, OR they just leave sendmail alone.
+</I>><i> Sendmail is both a client and server, and there is no reason it can't be
+</I>><i> left alone just to be used to pipe mail into.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> Regards,
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> Jonathan George, CEO
+</I>><i> MultiList Central
+</I>><i> www.MultiListCentral.com
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> |> .. where >>> precedes a line sent by the server, and <<< precedes one
+</I>sent by
+><i> |> the client. Note the blank line separating the Subject: header from
+</I>the
+><i> |> message body. Completely RFC compliant and easy to implement. Also
+</I>notice my
+><i> |> MTA (in the 'greeting' line) is not Sendmail, but another popular
+</I>alternative
+><i> |> called Exim. No problem if the mail-sending routines are implemented
+</I>in "SMTP
+><i> |> client" form but a potential PITA [pain in the a**] if you wanted to
+</I>use
+><i> |> command-line sending. Obviously some error-handling must be built in
+</I>><i> |> (500-series numbers in particular mean a rejected delivery) but this is
+</I>pretty
+><i> |> trivial.
+</I>><i> |
+</I>><i> |I can see that then, thank you for clearing that up :)
+</I>><i>
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