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+ <H1>[IRCServices] I: service for ircu</H1>
+ <B>Andrew Kempe</B>
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+ TITLE="[IRCServices] I: service for ircu">andrewk at icon.co.za
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+ <I>Thu Jun 29 01:39:40 PDT 2000</I>
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+<PRE>Let me rephrase...
+
+I will not be adding support for non-standard features found in ircd's such
+as ircu, unreal etc. Nor will I be adding basic support for ircu 2.10.x - I
+simply don't have the time. Bahamut will be the ircd for which I will
+continue to develop.
+
+IRC Services will ALWAYS be able to work with ircd's that it has supported
+in the past. However, those ircds may not be able to make full use of the
+features in IRC Services.
+
+I hope this makes you feel a lot more comfortable. As I've said in the past,
+Services will always be RFC compatible.
+
+Hopefully in the future things will become a lot more modular. This should
+make it easier for a 3rd party development.
+
+Later, Andrew
+
+
+----- Original Message -----
+From: "Kelmar K. Firesun" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">kfiresun at ix.netcom.com</A>>
+To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at delirious.shadowfire.org</A>>
+Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:02 AM
+Subject: Re: [IRCServices] I: service for ircu
+
+
+><i>
+</I>><i> ----- Original Message -----
+</I>><i> From: "Andrew Kempe" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andrewk at icon.co.za</A>>
+</I>><i> To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at delirious.shadowfire.org</A>>
+</I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:49 AM
+</I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] I: service for ircu
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> > All future development will be for DALnet's Bahamut ircd. This ircd
+</I>><i> combines
+</I>><i> > the benefits of Hybrid (speed and TS3) and Dreamforge (Services
+</I>support -
+><i> > among other things).
+</I>><i> >
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> ] ... SNIP ... [
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> Are you completely dropping support for all other IRCD's!?
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> If so, this sounds rather presumptuous. Several people still use the
+</I>older
+><i> daemons for many reasons, not to say the least are for efficiency and
+</I>><i> "ethic"
+</I>><i> reasons. (Some people view forcively changing a user's mode and/or nick
+</I>to
+><i> be wrong)
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> For my own reasons, this is going to make things harder on my part with
+</I>the
+><i> designs of the IRCD that I've been working on for sometime. I'll not have
+</I>><i> a familiar starting ground on which to make my daemon compatible with
+</I>><i> services.
+</I>><i> That being the original server to server negotiations as outlined in RFC
+</I>><i> 1459.
+</I>><i> Bahamut and DreamForge use a modified version there of.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> Further more, you'll be shutting everyone out, not everyone is going to
+</I>want
+><i> to
+</I>><i> change their server (let alone their whole network) over to Bahamut. Last
+</I>I
+><i> had
+</I>><i> a Bahamut/DF mix on my network it caused some major stability problems.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> I urge you to please reconsider your decision in this matter.
+</I>><i>
+</I>><i> Thank you,
+</I>><i> Bryce Simonds
+</I>><i> Kelmar K. Firesun
+</I>><i>
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