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    <B>Andrew Church</B> 
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<PRE>&gt;<i>Hi, It would be a nice thing just to remove the old version 4 database
</I>&gt;<i>support as with xml export import features there is really no need for
</I>&gt;<i>version 4 support.  For now it is a nice thing to have for users who
</I>&gt;<i>might want to still use the databases but really sometime soon it should
</I>&gt;<i>be removed.
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     Removing the database/version4 module would prevent users who have
upgraded to 5.1 from being able to read their old databases (even to
export them), so I won't be doing this.

&gt;<i>Another thing I noticed is when I used the -export option
</I>&gt;<i>and I already had another copy of services running it tried to start the
</I>&gt;<i>httpd module and exitted with the bind error address already in use.  I
</I>&gt;<i>had to shutdown services, export the databases then restart version 5.0
</I>&gt;<i>again.  It would be nice if the -export or -import is given services
</I>&gt;<i>would just check and not load all of the modules just the ones for xml
</I>&gt;<i>export and or import so the already runing copy would not need to be
</I>&gt;<i>shutdown.
</I>
     I'm aware of this as an issue; however, due to the design of Services
it's not easy to fix in the general case, so I don't know if I'll be able
to correct this for 5.1.  The workaround is to disable the HTTP server
modules before running ircservices -export.

  --Andrew Church
    <A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>
    <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
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	34	<PRE>><i>Hi, It would be a nice thing just to remove the old version 4 database
	35	</I>><i>support as with xml export import features there is really no need for
	36	</I>><i>version 4 support. For now it is a nice thing to have for users who
	37	</I>><i>might want to still use the databases but really sometime soon it should
	38	</I>><i>be removed.
	39	</I>
	40	Removing the database/version4 module would prevent users who have
	41	upgraded to 5.1 from being able to read their old databases (even to
	42	export them), so I won't be doing this.
	43
	44	><i>Another thing I noticed is when I used the -export option
	45	</I>><i>and I already had another copy of services running it tried to start the
	46	</I>><i>httpd module and exitted with the bind error address already in use. I
	47	</I>><i>had to shutdown services, export the databases then restart version 5.0
	48	</I>><i>again. It would be nice if the -export or -import is given services
	49	</I>><i>would just check and not load all of the modules just the ones for xml
	50	</I>><i>export and or import so the already runing copy would not need to be
	51	</I>><i>shutdown.
	52	</I>
	53	I'm aware of this as an issue; however, due to the design of Services
	54	it's not easy to fix in the general case, so I don't know if I'll be able
	55	to correct this for 5.1. The workaround is to disable the HTTP server
	56	modules before running ircservices -export.
	57
	58	--Andrew Church
	59	<A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>
	60	<A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
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