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| 15 | <B>Bergee</B> | |
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| 34 | <PRE> Sorry I should have been more clear the first time. :) I was speaking | |
| 35 | about the user mode +q, not the channel mode. The unreal help describes | |
| 36 | this mode as "q = Only U:lines can kick you (Services Admins/Net Admins | |
| 37 | only)". Although the part about service/net admins only isn't quite | |
| 38 | true since it could in theory be any oper with the access to that mode | |
| 39 | defined in their oper block. But I digress, hopefully that makes my | |
| 40 | last post make a bit more sense. | |
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| 42 | Bergee | |
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| 44 | P.S. Speaking of the +a and +q channel modes, Unreal now (with prefixes | |
| 45 | for +a and +q enabled) treats the channel modes +a and +q more like +h | |
| 46 | than just a status marker for not kickable. Except of course they have | |
| 47 | more power than +o instead of less. As in if you have +a or +q, you | |
| 48 | don't actually need +o to kick a user from the channel, or to give | |
| 49 | another user halfops and so on like that. But I suppose that's another | |
| 50 | email. :) | |
| 51 | ||
| 52 | Andrew Church wrote: | |
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| 54 | ><i> Isn't there already +a for unkickable (which Services does respect)? | |
| 55 | </I>><i> Or does Unreal override +a with +q? | |
| 56 | </I>><i> | |
| 57 | </I>><i> --Andrew Church | |
| 58 | </I>><i> <A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> | |
| 59 | </I>><i> <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A> | |
| 60 | </I>><i> | |
| 61 | </I>><i> | |
| 62 | </I>>><i> For what it's worth, on my network +q is almost never used, but when it | |
| 63 | </I>>><i>is it's often during tracking down botnets or users that are otherwise | |
| 64 | </I>>><i>abusing the network. In this vein it is useful to make it impossible to | |
| 65 | </I>>><i>get kicked out of a channel where you want to be so you can monitor the | |
| 66 | </I>>><i>situation. To that end, it would be useful to me if ChanServ noticed | |
| 67 | </I>>><i>that +q was set on a user and simply denied the kick. I would think | |
| 68 | </I>>><i>that the OperServ kick function should still ignore +q and proceed with | |
| 69 | </I>>><i>the kick, but I'd be interested to hear what others think of this idea. | |
| 70 | </I>>><i> | |
| 71 | </I>>><i>Comments? | |
| 72 | </I>>><i> | |
| 73 | </I>>><i>Bergee | |
| 74 | </I>>><i> | |
| 75 | </I>>><i>Dionisios K. wrote: | |
| 76 | </I>>><i> | |
| 77 | </I>>>><i>On UnrealIRCD the +q usermode is supported. | |
| 78 | </I>>>><i>If an oper (with privileges for this) have this usermode noone can kick | |
| 79 | </I>>>><i>him. | |
| 80 | </I>>>><i>But if someone use the ChanServ KICK command services will kick the oper | |
| 81 | </I>>>><i>from the channel. | |
| 82 | </I>>>><i>I think ChanServ should check if an oper is +q and if yes dont kick him | |
| 83 | </I>>>><i>at all. | |
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