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15 <B>Andrew Church</B>
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19 <I>Sun Jun 15 20:59:44 PDT 2003</I>
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34<PRE> Identification is only remembered for the purpose of avoiding
35re-identification for IDENTIFY and password entering for RECOVER/RELEASE/
36GHOST. It is intentionally not used for channel access levels because of
37the ambiguity that would result. (In your example, what if &quot;haha&quot; was on
38the channel access list with level 100? level 30? level -1?)
39
40 --Andrew Church
41 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>
42 <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
43
44&gt;<i>Well;
45</I>&gt;<i>
46</I>&gt;<i>--- You are now known as testnick
47</I>&gt;<i>-NickServ- This nickname is registered and protected. If it is your
48</I>&gt;<i>nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password. Otherwise, please
49</I>&gt;<i>choose a different nickname.
50</I>&gt;<i>-NickServ- Password accepted -- you are now recognized.
51</I>&gt;<i>--- You are now known as haha
52</I>&gt;<i>--&gt; You are now talking on #test
53</I>&gt;<i>--- testserv.time.net sets modes [#test +Tn]
54</I>&gt;<i>--- services.time.net has changed the topic to:
55</I>&gt;<i>--- ChanServ sets modes [#test +ntr-o haha]
56</I>&gt;<i>
57</I>&gt;<i>The channel's access list contains aop for the nick &quot;testnick&quot;
58</I>&gt;<i>-ChanServ- Access list for #test:
59</I>&gt;<i>-ChanServ- Num Lev Nickname
60</I>&gt;<i>-ChanServ- 1 50 testnick
61</I>&gt;<i>
62</I>&gt;<i>But ChanServ is still deopping.
63</I>&gt;<i>The nickname &quot;haha&quot; is also a registered nickname.
64</I>&gt;<i>
65</I>&gt;<i>Conclusion: your solution does not work. Since I hope that you read and
66</I>&gt;<i>understood my email, I think then this is a bug of services ?
67</I>&gt;<i>
68</I>&gt;<i>yusuf.
69</I>&gt;<i>
70</I>&gt;<i>On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 09:03, Andrew Church wrote:
71</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /nick OtherNick
72</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /ns identify OtherPass
73</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /nick FirstNick
74</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
75</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No to the rest.
76</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
77</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --Andrew Church
78</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>
79</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
80</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
81</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Hello;
82</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
83</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;This time I wanted to tell you a feature suggestion:
84</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
85</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Currently, the nickname link system allows a user to use different
86</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;nicknames, as if they are the same nick for services, in case the user
87</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;gets an access for a certain nick, they actually get it for the main
88</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;nick.
89</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
90</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;My suggestion is the expansion of this to nicknames, which are not
91</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;linked to their nicknames, in other words, identifying another nickname.
92</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
93</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;This way, a user would have the ability to identify a certain nick for a
94</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;period (max until signoff), and they would not remain identified to that
95</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;nick for all time, since it is not linked.
96</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
97</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;This might be used, if a certain nickname is about to be shared by
98</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;multiple persons;
99</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;- for example identifying to a Bot's nickname, while testing a bot
100</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;software
101</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;- a shared services operator system; where only few nicknames with
102</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;certain OperServ rights exist, and the normal operators identify the
103</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;nickname of the services operator.
104</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;- Surprise effect: A user, who is also the founder of a channel, is
105</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;willing to chat without being continously identified as the founder, and
106</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;is willing to detect if the operators are &quot;nice&quot; to normal users, and
107</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;chats with them, and then wants to remove their access, and does this by
108</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;identifying to the founders nickname and issuing access del...
109</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
110</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Among this feature, the following commands look reasonable:
111</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;NS IDENTIFY password [nickname]
112</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;NS UNIDENTIFY nickname
113</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;CS WHY #channel nickname
114</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
115</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;The last command would show information like
116</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;-is operator on #channel, because identified to blah's nickname
117</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;-is voiced on #channel, because autovoice level is 0
118</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;-is halfopped on #channel, because using a identified to their own
119</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;nickname
120</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;-is not on #channel
121</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;-is not opped on #channel, because the nickname is not identified
122</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;-is not opped on #channel, because the nickname is not registered
123</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
124</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;I am not insisting that this feature must be implemented, I am just
125</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;interested in the possible replies.
126</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
127</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Best regards;
128</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;yusuf
129</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
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