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From k.hawkes at zombies.force9.net  Sat Jan 26 13:21:32 2002
From: k.hawkes at zombies.force9.net (Dr. K. Hawkes)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:07 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] GPL
Message-ID: <E14MGK9-0003kt-00@ruthenium>

Just as a suggestion, why not upload your mods (once finished or in Beta)
to the patch archive, I'm not sure who runs it or maintains it ATM, but
from what I know if the archive, it will house patches to IRCServices which
aren't supported by Andrew Church or Andrew Kempe.

Just an idea, if the changes are good, why not share your work?

Quinn

----------
> From: Gregory King <gregk@wwwpages.com>
> To: ircservices@ircservices.za.net
> Subject: [IRCServices] GPL
> Date: Friday, January 26, 2001 02:13
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Strider wrote:
> 
> > I'm rather embarrased of the code actually, it's not very good (and
most of
> > it isn't even mine). All it does is make little virtual users easier to
> > manage, I guess kinda like a botserv, but it's all done through
operserv.
> > Some of the code in fact is poor and downright wrong, heh. Once I learn
how
> > to program better, I'll fix some of that dirty code and maybe
eventually
> > distribute it.
> > 
> > BTW, when did this turn into a GPL discussion when the subject is
AKILL?
> > Haven't read all the list msgs yet...
> 
> That was my fault.  I replied to an existing message when I asked my
> question, and neglected to change the subject line.
> 
> In regards to why we dont distribute the changes... because they aren't
> quite stable and we aren't finished with the mods.  Also, there are a few
> things in our mods that Andrew has stated he would not put in the
services
> due to conflicts with the RFC's.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From k.hawkes at zombies.force9.net  Sat Feb  2 14:24:08 2002
From: k.hawkes at zombies.force9.net (Dr. K. Hawkes)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:09 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ OP/DEOP vs. access levels (was Re: Services  4.5pre1 released)
Message-ID: <E14OoiH-00024s-00@carbon.btinternet.com>

[snip]
> 
> or founders could be more picky about who they give op status to.  I dont
> have enuff cpu for a program to compensate for a stupid founder :>
> 
> To deop, chanserv should only be concerned about if the issuer is an op
in
> the channel he is attempting it in, just like a pc client works...
> 
I second that, why should IRCServices compensate, if someone is +o they
should be able to -o regardless of Services' Access Levels, this would also
fit in with the behaviour of 4.3.3-4.4.8.  No-one has really complained
about this, so why change it?

Just my 0.2p.

Quinn


From achurch at achurch.org  Tue Jan  1 18:00:00 2002
From: achurch at achurch.org (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:37 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] mergeing databases.
Message-ID: <3c31dd6a.43050@achurch.org>

>Is there any chance to merge ircservices?

     If you mean merging two databases, then no, not in the current
version; a feature like this is planned for the next major release (version
5.0), but is not done yet and may not make it into the first few releases.
Announcements will be made on this list when version 5.0 is released.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@achurch.org
    http://achurch.org/

From achurch at achurch.org  Tue Jan  1 18:06:00 2002
From: achurch at achurch.org (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:37 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Happy New Year
Message-ID: <3c31ded7.43061@achurch.org>

>Happy New Yearto everyone...
>
>I hope in new year everybody gets the happiness they want and everybody =
>becomes healthy=20
>
>Ali Sor

     I just got back from vacation, so this is a bit belated, but I'd like
to wish everyone a Happy New Year as well.  As always, it's the
appreciation I get from all of you for Services that makes working on it
enjoyable, and I'll be working to get at least a beta release of version
5.0 out as soon as I can.

     Best wishes to everyone for the coming year.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@achurch.org
    http://achurch.org/

From frostycoolslug at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  1 18:10:00 2002
From: frostycoolslug at hotmail.com (Craig McLure)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:37 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Happy New Year
Message-ID: <F38sJZvD8Pul0lJkdPb0000f584@hotmail.com>

i'll m000 to that :P
m00000


>From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church)
>Reply-To: ircservices@ircservices.za.net
>To: ircservices@ircservices.za.net
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Happy New Year
>Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:02:19 JST
>
> >Happy New Yearto everyone...
> >
> >I hope in new year everybody gets the happiness they want and everybody =
> >becomes healthy=20
> >
> >Ali Sor
>
>      I just got back from vacation, so this is a bit belated, but I'd like
>to wish everyone a Happy New Year as well.  As always, it's the
>appreciation I get from all of you for Services that makes working on it
>enjoyable, and I'll be working to get at least a beta release of version
>5.0 out as soon as I can.
>
>      Best wishes to everyone for the coming year.
>
>   --Andrew Church
>     achurch@achurch.org
>     http://achurch.org/
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From frostycoolslug at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  1 18:14:00 2002
From: frostycoolslug at hotmail.com (Craig McLure)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:37 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] mergeing databases.
Message-ID: <F191dXxuTpZKZlZU6Vi0000f450@hotmail.com>

hehe, wasnt far wrong ;P


>From: achurch@achurch.org (Andrew Church)
>Reply-To: ircservices@ircservices.za.net
>To: ircservices@ircservices.za.net
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] mergeing databases.
>Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:00:29 JST
>
> >Is there any chance to merge ircservices?
>
>      If you mean merging two databases, then no, not in the current
>version; a feature like this is planned for the next major release (version
>5.0), but is not done yet and may not make it into the first few releases.
>Announcements will be made on this list when version 5.0 is released.
>
>   --Andrew Church
>     achurch@achurch.org
>     http://achurch.org/
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From mark at mhetherington.demon.co.uk  Thu Jan  3 01:41:01 2002
From: mark at mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark Hetherington)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:37 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Services - missing numeric support etc
In-Reply-To: <F191dXxuTpZKZlZU6Vi0000f450@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <NFBBKFAFGLNBHGEDBKDMKELICIAA.mark@mhetherington.demon.co.uk>

Tested on 4.5.35, not tested on version 5 yet so these may not be a problem
in version 5.
For the purpose of IRCd specific issues, this is all from a network of
Unreal based servers.


At present I am test running scenarios to recreate the triggers for the
messages, but thought I would submit the list now since it is likely trivial
to correctly parse the numeric while the scenario would help in the later
testing the fix.

A number of "unknown" and vague messages are still appearing in the log
file. Although not a huge problem, it would be useful if they were addressed
so that any future support in services of them was easily available through
the existing trapping of them. Messages are provided from the log with
server names, nicknames and channel names protected:

1) unknown message from server (:server.name 443 ChanServ nick #channel :is
already on channel)

Not sure how to reproduce this yet, it usually happens with a couple of
specific users who are never online at the same time as I am so although I
am running through a number of scenarios, I am not sure what they are doing
to trigger the 443 numeric. Should be trivial to provide a better log entry.

2) channel: MODE +b *!*@* for nonexistent channel #channel

This always happens with forbidden channels so it would be preferable if the
message reflected this.

3) unknown message from server (:server.name 441 ChanServ nick #channel:They
aren't on that channel)

Again, I am unsure of what event triggered the numeric. Should be trivial to
provide a better log entry.

4) unknown message from server (:nick SILENCE * -*!*@my.domain)
   unknown message from server (:nick SILENCE ChanServ :*!*@my.domain)

I assume the trigger for this is a user issuing the SILENCE command to the
Unreal server. Why they want to ignore services I do not know, but anyway.
Should be trivial to provide a better log entry or ignore the SILENCE
directive.

5) unknown message from server (:serverhub.name SMO o :\ 2(sync)\ 2 Link
serverhub.name -> serverleaf.name is now synced [secs: 355 recv: 14.546
sent: 6.118])

This message is sent during a link of Unreal servers.

6) unknown message from server (:server.name 402 NickServ nick :No such
server)

Should be trivial to provide a better log entry. Yet to invent a test
scenario to reproduce.


Once I have them, assuming no-one else has already commented, I will post
the reproducable scenarios for the cases in this list where I have not so
far.

Mark.


From achurch at achurch.org  Thu Jan  3 04:55:01 2002
From: achurch at achurch.org (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:37 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Services - missing numeric support etc
Message-ID: <3c33c875.74327@achurch.org>

     The MODE +b message is already documented (see the KnownBugs file),
and I'm aware of most of the others; I just don't consider them a very high
priority as they don't affect Services functionality.  I am considering an
option for version 5.0 to suppress all "unknown message" messages.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@achurch.org
    http://achurch.org/

>Tested on 4.5.35, not tested on version 5 yet so these may not be a problem
>in version 5.
>For the purpose of IRCd specific issues, this is all from a network of
>Unreal based servers.
>
>
>At present I am test running scenarios to recreate the triggers for the
>messages, but thought I would submit the list now since it is likely trivial
>to correctly parse the numeric while the scenario would help in the later
>testing the fix.
>
>A number of "unknown" and vague messages are still appearing in the log
>file. Although not a huge problem, it would be useful if they were addressed
>so that any future support in services of them was easily available through
>the existing trapping of them. Messages are provided from the log with
>server names, nicknames and channel names protected:
>
>1) unknown message from server (:server.name 443 ChanServ nick #channel :is
>already on channel)
>
>Not sure how to reproduce this yet, it usually happens with a couple of
>specific users who are never online at the same time as I am so although I
>am running through a number of scenarios, I am not sure what they are doing
>to trigger the 443 numeric. Should be trivial to provide a better log entry.
>
>2) channel: MODE +b *!*@* for nonexistent channel #channel
>
>This always happens with forbidden channels so it would be preferable if the
>message reflected this.
>
>3) unknown message from server (:server.name 441 ChanServ nick #channel:They
>aren't on that channel)
>
>Again, I am unsure of what event triggered the numeric. Should be trivial to
>provide a better log entry.
>
>4) unknown message from server (:nick SILENCE * -*!*@my.domain)
>   unknown message from server (:nick SILENCE ChanServ :*!*@my.domain)
>
>I assume the trigger for this is a user issuing the SILENCE command to the
>Unreal server. Why they want to ignore services I do not know, but anyway.
>Should be trivial to provide a better log entry or ignore the SILENCE
>directive.
>
>5) unknown message from server (:serverhub.name SMO o :\ 2(sync)\ 2 Link
>serverhub.name -> serverleaf.name is now synced [secs: 355 recv: 14.546
>sent: 6.118])
>
>This message is sent during a link of Unreal servers.
>
>6) unknown message from server (:server.name 402 NickServ nick :No such
>server)
>
>Should be trivial to provide a better log entry. Yet to invent a test
>scenario to reproduce.
>
>
>Once I have them, assuming no-one else has already commented, I will post
>the reproducable scenarios for the cases in this list where I have not so
>far.
>
>Mark.
>
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From haibi at free.fr  Sat Jan  5 15:42:00 2002
From: haibi at free.fr (Habib HAIBI)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:01:37 2004