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   <H1>AW: [IRCServices] auto setting modes</H1>
    <B>Yusuf Iskenderoglu</B> 
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    <I>Fri Apr  6 09:18:01 PDT 2001</I>
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<PRE>Hello;

I think you SHOULD read the FAQ/README/TODO/Changes.

In this very specific case, you ought to have read the FAQ.

Please go through it, and read the Z.6. TWICE. 
Then you will notice, that Mr. Church does NOT tend to add such a 
feature as you have suggested it.

Additionally, your information is also very wrong, because DALnet has never
implemented a channelmode, which prevents anyone from being kicked.
Before coming up with a context declaring DALnet had done things, do
try to install their daemon, and check, whether they really did that.
Or go through <A HREF="http://bahamut.dal.net">http://bahamut.dal.net</A> to read what is available.

Furthermore, a Ulined Client does not ever need to join a channel,
except you want to flood services with channel text, which is unuseable
but parsed this way. That means, you will fill the socket to the services
with useless information, if a Client from Services JOINs a channel.
That way the packet size increases, and also the waiting time and also
the response time.

Please do try to be productive, and not destructive.
A lagged services is never positive.

Regards,
yusuf

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&gt;<i> -----Urspr&#252;ngliche Nachricht-----
</I>&gt;<i> Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
</I>&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von PuterManCFC
</I>&gt;<i> Gesendet: Freitag, 6. April 2001 07:39
</I>&gt;<i> An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
</I>&gt;<i> Betreff: [IRCServices] auto setting modes
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> *idea*
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> when a raw command is used to have services join a room (regardless of the
</I>&gt;<i> service), so to prevent users from kicking etc, have it automatically set
</I>&gt;<i> modes +oq on it.  (+q is the unreal tag given to channel owners).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Personally I think that this would be a good idea, and I know that dalnet
</I>&gt;<i> has something very similar implemented in there setup.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> PuterManCFC
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	34	<PRE>Hello;
	35
	36	I think you SHOULD read the FAQ/README/TODO/Changes.
	37
	38	In this very specific case, you ought to have read the FAQ.
	39
	40	Please go through it, and read the Z.6. TWICE.
	41	Then you will notice, that Mr. Church does NOT tend to add such a
	42	feature as you have suggested it.
	43
	44	Additionally, your information is also very wrong, because DALnet has never
	45	implemented a channelmode, which prevents anyone from being kicked.
	46	Before coming up with a context declaring DALnet had done things, do
	47	try to install their daemon, and check, whether they really did that.
	48	Or go through <A HREF="http://bahamut.dal.net">http://bahamut.dal.net</A> to read what is available.
	49
	50	Furthermore, a Ulined Client does not ever need to join a channel,
	51	except you want to flood services with channel text, which is unuseable
	52	but parsed this way. That means, you will fill the socket to the services
	53	with useless information, if a Client from Services JOINs a channel.
	54	That way the packet size increases, and also the waiting time and also
	55	the response time.
	56
	57	Please do try to be productive, and not destructive.
	58	A lagged services is never positive.
	59
	60	Regards,
	61	yusuf
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65	</I>\|<i> eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de</A> \| in this line of work... \|
66	</I>\|<i> eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">s_iskend at ira.uka.de</A> \| \|
67	</I>\|<i> ICQ UIN : 20587464 \ TimeMr14C \| \|
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71	><i> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
72	</I>><i> Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
73	</I>><i> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von PuterManCFC
74	</I>><i> Gesendet: Freitag, 6. April 2001 07:39
75	</I>><i> An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
76	</I>><i> Betreff: [IRCServices] auto setting modes
77	</I>><i>
78	</I>><i>
79	</I>><i> idea
80	</I>><i>
81	</I>><i> when a raw command is used to have services join a room (regardless of the
82	</I>><i> service), so to prevent users from kicking etc, have it automatically set
83	</I>><i> modes +oq on it. (+q is the unreal tag given to channel owners).
84	</I>><i>
85	</I>><i> Personally I think that this would be a good idea, and I know that dalnet
86	</I>><i> has something very similar implemented in there setup.
87	</I>><i>
88	</I>><i>
89	</I>><i> PuterManCFC
90	</I>><i> ----------------------------
91	</I>><i> Network Admin: Operations
92	</I>><i> ChatFIRST INC
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