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    <B>Real</B> 
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<PRE>Also forgot to say once the person that has been +q ed on the channel
changes their nick to another the new nick WILL NOT show up on the people's
list however the old nick still appears there being a ghost and the users of
the room can't even see that the Founder changed nicks it simply stays there
as a ghost till the user ( not the room founder but the one that cant see
the founder quits IRC or the channel in question )

Ely
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----- Original Message -----
From: &quot;[Real]&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Admin at chatfirst.com</A>&gt;
To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Services 4.5pre1 released


&gt;<i> I have just installed IRCServices-4.5pre1 and everything appears to be ok
</I>&gt;<i> except for that new feature of ChanServ setting +q on the owner. First it
</I>&gt;<i> looks like it's not doing it on all the rooms, I tried registering a test
</I>&gt;<i> channel after one of my IRCops complained that ChanServ was not +q ing him
</I>&gt;<i> on his channel that of course he owns and was the founder of it. ChanServ
</I>&gt;<i> would NOT set +q on me opon joining the Test channel, However it was
</I>setting
&gt;<i> +q on the help channel #ChatFIRST which had been registered like a year
</I>ago.
&gt;<i> Also this new +q mode conflicts with clients like pIRCh98 cause once the
</I>&gt;<i> given nick gets +q then their nick shows up as @.Nick  notice there's dot
</I>in
&gt;<i> between the @ sign and the nickname itself then when someone using pIRCh
</I>&gt;<i> tries to /msg the nick by double clicking on their nick they get this
</I>&gt;<i> message back at them:
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> .RealCFC :No such nick/channel
</I>&gt;<i> -
</I>&gt;<i> .RealCFC :End of /WHOIS list.
</I>&gt;<i> -
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I know this seems to be a problem with the client itself not services but
</I>I
&gt;<i> wonder what we will tell to all these pIRCh users when they try to private
</I>&gt;<i> message the OP of the room and it says she/he are not knwon .
</I>&gt;<i> Maybe this is something that has to be fixed with UnrealIRCd ?
</I>&gt;<i> I have used pIRCh in networks where OPs are not shown with @ but with .
</I>&gt;<i> (dot) in that case pIRCh has no problem private messaging the user.
</I>&gt;<i> This is a really bad bad thing as many many people on the internet use
</I>&gt;<i> pIRCh98. after all there's only two good IRC clients for Windows mIRC and
</I>&gt;<i> pIRCh . the others are all full of bugs.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I also noticed that ChanServ DID NOT MLOCK +s on rooms where it was
</I>supposed
&gt;<i> to. Once I restarted services for the upgrade ChanServ forgot MLOCK +s in
</I>&gt;<i> every room it was set for that.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I ll continue testing and send a message to this list if I find any other
</I>&gt;<i> problems.
</I>&gt;<i> Ely
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> ======================
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">RealCFC at ChatFIRST.COM</A>
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.chatfirst.com">http://www.chatfirst.com</A>
</I>&gt;<i> ======================
</I>&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:26 PM
</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.5pre1 released
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      Services 4.5pre1 has been released, and may be downloaded from:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.tar.gz</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.diff.gz">ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.diff.gz</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It should reach ftp.ircservices.za.net and the mirrors shortly.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      See the Changes file in the archive for a list of changes from
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pre0.  Also, I've made a number of changes in the Unreal support;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people with Unreal, please continue testing and let me know of any
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _confirmed_ problems. (:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   --Andrew Church
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> | New address - please note.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A> | \e$B%a!&lt;%k%&quot;%I%l%9$,JQ$o$j$^$7$?!#\e(B
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -----------------------------------------------------------
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------------
</I>&gt;<i> To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A>
</I>&gt;<i> with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail.
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>


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	34	<PRE>Also forgot to say once the person that has been +q ed on the channel
	35	changes their nick to another the new nick WILL NOT show up on the people's
	36	list however the old nick still appears there being a ghost and the users of
	37	the room can't even see that the Founder changed nicks it simply stays there
	38	as a ghost till the user ( not the room founder but the one that cant see
	39	the founder quits IRC or the channel in question )
	40
	41	Ely
	42	======================
	43	<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">RealCFC at ChatFIRST.COM</A>
	44	<A HREF="http://www.chatfirst.com">http://www.chatfirst.com</A>
	45	======================
	46	----- Original Message -----
	47	From: "[Real]" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Admin at chatfirst.com</A>>
	48	To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>>
	49	Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:14 PM
	50	Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Services 4.5pre1 released
	51
	52
	53	><i> I have just installed IRCServices-4.5pre1 and everything appears to be ok
	54	</I>><i> except for that new feature of ChanServ setting +q on the owner. First it
	55	</I>><i> looks like it's not doing it on all the rooms, I tried registering a test
	56	</I>><i> channel after one of my IRCops complained that ChanServ was not +q ing him
	57	</I>><i> on his channel that of course he owns and was the founder of it. ChanServ
	58	</I>><i> would NOT set +q on me opon joining the Test channel, However it was
	59	</I>setting
	60	><i> +q on the help channel #ChatFIRST which had been registered like a year
	61	</I>ago.
	62	><i> Also this new +q mode conflicts with clients like pIRCh98 cause once the
	63	</I>><i> given nick gets +q then their nick shows up as @.Nick notice there's dot
	64	</I>in
65	><i> between the @ sign and the nickname itself then when someone using pIRCh
66	</I>><i> tries to /msg the nick by double clicking on their nick they get this
67	</I>><i> message back at them:
68	</I>><i>
69	</I>><i> .RealCFC :No such nick/channel
70	</I>><i> -
71	</I>><i> .RealCFC :End of /WHOIS list.
72	</I>><i> -
73	</I>><i>
74	</I>><i> I know this seems to be a problem with the client itself not services but
75	</I>I
76	><i> wonder what we will tell to all these pIRCh users when they try to private
77	</I>><i> message the OP of the room and it says she/he are not knwon .
78	</I>><i> Maybe this is something that has to be fixed with UnrealIRCd ?
79	</I>><i> I have used pIRCh in networks where OPs are not shown with @ but with .
80	</I>><i> (dot) in that case pIRCh has no problem private messaging the user.
81	</I>><i> This is a really bad bad thing as many many people on the internet use
82	</I>><i> pIRCh98. after all there's only two good IRC clients for Windows mIRC and
83	</I>><i> pIRCh . the others are all full of bugs.
84	</I>><i>
85	</I>><i> I also noticed that ChanServ DID NOT MLOCK +s on rooms where it was
86	</I>supposed
87	><i> to. Once I restarted services for the upgrade ChanServ forgot MLOCK +s in
88	</I>><i> every room it was set for that.
89	</I>><i>
90	</I>><i> I ll continue testing and send a message to this list if I find any other
91	</I>><i> problems.
92	</I>><i> Ely
93	</I>><i>
94	</I>><i>
95	</I>><i> ======================
96	</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">RealCFC at ChatFIRST.COM</A>
97	</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.chatfirst.com">http://www.chatfirst.com</A>
98	</I>><i> ======================
99	</I>><i> ----- Original Message -----
100	</I>><i> From: "Andrew Church" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>>
101	</I>><i> To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>>
102	</I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:26 PM
103	</I>><i> Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.5pre1 released
104	</I>><i>
105	</I>><i>
106	</I>><i> > Services 4.5pre1 has been released, and may be downloaded from:
107	</I>><i> >
108	</I>><i> > <A HREF="ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.tar.gz</A>
109	</I>><i> > <A HREF="ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.diff.gz">ftp://ftp.esper.net/ircservices/ircservices-4.5pre1.diff.gz</A>
110	</I>><i> >
111	</I>><i> > It should reach ftp.ircservices.za.net and the mirrors shortly.
112	</I>><i> >
113	</I>><i> > See the Changes file in the archive for a list of changes from
114	</I>><i> > pre0. Also, I've made a number of changes in the Unreal support;
115	</I>><i> > people with Unreal, please continue testing and let me know of any
116	</I>><i> > _confirmed_ problems. (:
117	</I>><i> >
118	</I>><i> > --Andrew Church
119	</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> \| New address - please note.
120	</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A> \| \e$B%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$,JQ$o$j$^$7$?!#\e(B
121	</I>><i> >
122	</I>><i> > -----------------------------------------------------------
123	</I>><i> > To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A>
124	</I>><i> > with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail.
125	</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A>
126	</I>><i> >
127	</I>><i>
128	</I>><i>
129	</I>><i> -----------------------------------------------------------
130	</I>><i> To unsubscribe, mail <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-request at ircservices.za.net</A>
131	</I>><i> with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject of the mail.
132	</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices</A>
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