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Actually, from what I've seen getpass is not the only way.... services admins can use ChanServ's set command to change the channel founder, make modifications, then change the founder back. 
  
What I do find surprising is that Services Admins can change founders but not access lists.  
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From: Dr. K. Hawkes  
To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at Snow.shadowfire.org</A>  
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&gt;<i>From what I recall, no-one except Channel Founders or people with access to modify the access-list can change anything on a channel access list.
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The only way for a SA (Services Admin) to do it would be to use GETPASS, however you can modify Services to allow you to modify the access lists directly w/o GETPASS.

But the question arises, why do you want to modify access lists w/o using GETPASS anyhow?

Quinn

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</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at Snow.shadowfire.org</A>
</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Root User and Channels Access lists
</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 02:28
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Ok I was the one who actually started this and Im still without access to modifiying users access lists on channels , this is really important to me and I believe to everyone specially when you want to help new users setting up their channels.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Is there any good soul out there willing to help me personally , Im new to all this and it looks by some people's answers on this list that there is really a way for the services root to be able to change access lists . 
</I>&gt;<i> The only way I have found till now its using GETPASS then pretend Im the user and change the access list that way.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> For example <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">lonewolf at lagnet.org.za</A> (Lonewolf) said:
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &quot;But you're quite right, I missed the call to is_services_root() in
</I>&gt;<i>  is_services_admin() in operserv.c.&quot;
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Is he/she implyinig you can modify the file 'operserv.c' to allow you to touch access lists ?
</I>&gt;<i>  
</I>&gt;<i>  
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> In a message dated 9/12/00 4:44:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">lonewolf at lagnet.org.za</A> writes:
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &lt;&lt; On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 07:51:58AM -0700, <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">quension at softhome.net</A> wrote:
</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; Services root has the highest level of access, as long as you're
</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; using and identified to that nick.  There is no need to add yourself
</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; to anything.  Otherwise, what would be the point of having a
</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; services root?
</I>&gt;<i>  
</I>&gt;<i>  To manipulate the SA list.
</I>&gt;<i>  
</I>&gt;<i>  But you're quite right, I missed the call to is_services_root() in
</I>&gt;<i>  is_services_admin() in operserv.c.
</I>&gt;<i>  
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	35	Actually, from what I've seen getpass is not the only way.... services admins can use ChanServ's set command to change the channel founder, make modifications, then change the founder back.
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	37	What I do find surprising is that Services Admins can change founders but not access lists.
	38	----- Original Message -----
	39	From: Dr. K. Hawkes
	40	To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at Snow.shadowfire.org</A>
	41	Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:24 AM
	42	Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Root User and Channels Access lists
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	46	><i>From what I recall, no-one except Channel Founders or people with access to modify the access-list can change anything on a channel access list.
	47	</I>
	48	The only way for a SA (Services Admin) to do it would be to use GETPASS, however you can modify Services to allow you to modify the access lists directly w/o GETPASS.
	49
	50	But the question arises, why do you want to modify access lists w/o using GETPASS anyhow?
	51
	52	Quinn
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	54	----------
	55	><i> From: Administration ChatFIRST.COM <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">admin at chatfirst.com</A>>
	56	</I>><i> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at Snow.shadowfire.org</A>
	57	</I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Root User and Channels Access lists
	58	</I>><i> Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 02:28
	59	</I>><i>
	60	</I>><i> Ok I was the one who actually started this and Im still without access to modifiying users access lists on channels , this is really important to me and I believe to everyone specially when you want to help new users setting up their channels.
	61	</I>><i>
	62	</I>><i> Is there any good soul out there willing to help me personally , Im new to all this and it looks by some people's answers on this list that there is really a way for the services root to be able to change access lists .
	63	</I>><i> The only way I have found till now its using GETPASS then pretend Im the user and change the access list that way.
	64	</I>><i>
65	</I>><i> For example <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">lonewolf at lagnet.org.za</A> (Lonewolf) said:
66	</I>><i>
67	</I>><i> "But you're quite right, I missed the call to is_services_root() in
68	</I>><i> is_services_admin() in operserv.c."
69	</I>><i>
70	</I>><i> Is he/she implyinig you can modify the file 'operserv.c' to allow you to touch access lists ?
71	</I>><i>
72	</I>><i>
73	</I>><i>
74	</I>><i>
75	</I>><i> In a message dated 9/12/00 4:44:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">lonewolf at lagnet.org.za</A> writes:
76	</I>><i>
77	</I>><i> << On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 07:51:58AM -0700, <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">quension at softhome.net</A> wrote:
78	</I>><i> > Services root has the highest level of access, as long as you're
79	</I>><i> > using and identified to that nick. There is no need to add yourself
80	</I>><i> > to anything. Otherwise, what would be the point of having a
81	</I>><i> > services root?
82	</I>><i>
83	</I>><i> To manipulate the SA list.
84	</I>><i>
85	</I>><i> But you're quite right, I missed the call to is_services_root() in
86	</I>><i> is_services_admin() in operserv.c.
87	</I>><i>
88	</I>><i> --
89	</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">lonewolf at lagnet.org.za</A>
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