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    <B>Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)</B> 
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    <I>Fri Oct  8 07:07:51 PDT 1999</I>
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<PRE>The registration would be the normal way, on the fly, just SENDPASS commands
would wait for cron, 10 minutes waiting for a password doesnt look too much
to me :), but you could put in on 5 mins :), for those people using
encrypted passwords like me, should be implemented a Password Reminder.

Jo&#227;o Lu&#237;s Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Lamego at PTlink.net</A>
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From: Scott Seufert [&lt;A  HREF=&quot;mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">scotts at flamebait.org</A>&quot;&gt;mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">scotts at flamebait.org</A>&lt;/A&gt;]
Sent: sexta-feira, 8 de outubro de 1999 16:31
To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] what do they think ?


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&gt;<i>From: &quot;Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">jpinto9 at visteon.com</A>&gt;
</I>&gt;<i>To: &quot;'<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>'&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>&gt;
</I>&gt;<i>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
</I>&gt;<i>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:20 AM
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
&gt;<i> I think putting the mailing job on services is not a very good idea, my
</I>idea
&gt;<i> is services should dump the data for the mails on a temp file, and then a
</I>&gt;<i> script that would be on cron, would use thid temp file, send the mails and
</I>&gt;<i> clean the file :), a 10mins interval cron with be a good service.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
Good in theory, however the problem I see is that users will have to wait
that 10 minutes to finish registering their nick and/or any channels that
are wanted registered as well. I was using IRCu and CService style bot and I
found that our biggest complaint was that users didn't like that it involved
such a long process, personally I see nothing wrong with requiring a few
supporters, however I still got complaints. Users wanted instant results, so
I removed the UnderNet style bots and daemon that I like so well and
switched to DALnet's daemon and ircservices. The complaints have stopped. In
short adding a 10 minute cron job may not be the answer.

Another thing is that when I was an oper on DALnet, services would back
themselves up. When this is in process services was very hard to work with,
because the box services is on was running at a high CPU. IF this mail cron
job gets too big in that 10 minute span, you may see the same results.

&lt;snip&gt;


Just my $0.02

Scott Seufert
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	34	<PRE>The registration would be the normal way, on the fly, just SENDPASS commands
	35	would wait for cron, 10 minutes waiting for a password doesnt look too much
	36	to me :), but you could put in on 5 mins :), for those people using
	37	encrypted passwords like me, should be implemented a Password Reminder.
	38
	39	João Luís Marques Pinto
	40	PTlink Tech - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Lamego at PTlink.net</A>
	41	<A HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>
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	46	From: Scott Seufert [<A HREF="mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">scotts at flamebait.org</A>">mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">scotts at flamebait.org</A></A>]
	47	Sent: sexta-feira, 8 de outubro de 1999 16:31
	48	To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
	49	Subject: Re: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
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	55	><i>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">jpinto9 at visteon.com</A>>
	56	</I>><i>To: "'<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>'" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>>
	57	</I>><i>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
	58	</I>><i>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:20 AM
	59	</I>><i>
	60	</I>
	61	><i> I think putting the mailing job on services is not a very good idea, my
	62	</I>idea
	63	><i> is services should dump the data for the mails on a temp file, and then a
	64	</I>><i> script that would be on cron, would use thid temp file, send the mails and
65	</I>><i> clean the file :), a 10mins interval cron with be a good service.
66	</I>><i>
67	</I>
68	Good in theory, however the problem I see is that users will have to wait
69	that 10 minutes to finish registering their nick and/or any channels that
70	are wanted registered as well. I was using IRCu and CService style bot and I
71	found that our biggest complaint was that users didn't like that it involved
72	such a long process, personally I see nothing wrong with requiring a few
73	supporters, however I still got complaints. Users wanted instant results, so
74	I removed the UnderNet style bots and daemon that I like so well and
75	switched to DALnet's daemon and ircservices. The complaints have stopped. In
76	short adding a 10 minute cron job may not be the answer.
77
78	Another thing is that when I was an oper on DALnet, services would back
79	themselves up. When this is in process services was very hard to work with,
80	because the box services is on was running at a high CPU. IF this mail cron
81	job gets too big in that 10 minute span, you may see the same results.
82
83	<snip>
84
85
86	Just my $0.02
87
88	Scott Seufert
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