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    <B>Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)</B> 
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<PRE>I removed JOIN 0 support from my ircd, my network runs with 10 servers, I am
running services for 5 months, I have a 1600 nicks registered on 5 months
and I dint found any JOIN 0 unknown messages from any client, besides those
I used to test it :)
On large network probably if removing is going to be wiped out should be
using firs bye a ircd version that would just accept JOIN 0 from servers,
not client and finally when all network upgrade, all JOIN 0 support could be
removed.
Off curse on a distribution point of view for services I agreed they should
support JOIN 0 for ircd compatibility.
I would like to publish the URL from my services, that I expect not to be
considered as SPAM, I am publishing it here as a source of code to be
applied on Andy Church services by anyone interested in some of the
features, if you think this is not very wise, or breaks the subject of this
ML please let me know, in that case I will not do this again. My new version
of services: 1.2.0 available from <A HREF="http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html">http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html</A>
addresses some problems I think still exist on actual services.

P.S.: Sorry, about my english :)

Jo&#227;o Lu&#237;s Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Lamego at PTlink.net</A>
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From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">BeenJaminG at aol.com</A> [&lt;A  HREF=&quot;mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">BeenJaminG at aol.com</A>&quot;&gt;mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">BeenJaminG at aol.com</A>&lt;/A&gt;]
Sent: quarta-feira, 22 de setembro de 1999 23:23
To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject


In a message dated 9/22/99 12:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">jpinto9 at visteon.com</A> writes:

&gt;<i> My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
</I>&gt;<i>  services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
</I>&gt;<i>  this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)
</I>&gt;<i>  
</I>
I had also considered the impact of JOIN 0 to services with troublesome
bots..
Taking JOIN 0 out of the ircd isn't an option.. that could break some
clients 
that depend on JOIN 0 to part all chanenls- besides, I beleive most ircd 
distributions have this join command.. taking it out would be a problem :P
It just needs to be fixed (I havn't had any time to medle with the code 
lately)

- bstu
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	34	<PRE>I removed JOIN 0 support from my ircd, my network runs with 10 servers, I am
	35	running services for 5 months, I have a 1600 nicks registered on 5 months
	36	and I dint found any JOIN 0 unknown messages from any client, besides those
	37	I used to test it :)
	38	On large network probably if removing is going to be wiped out should be
	39	using firs bye a ircd version that would just accept JOIN 0 from servers,
	40	not client and finally when all network upgrade, all JOIN 0 support could be
	41	removed.
	42	Off curse on a distribution point of view for services I agreed they should
	43	support JOIN 0 for ircd compatibility.
	44	I would like to publish the URL from my services, that I expect not to be
	45	considered as SPAM, I am publishing it here as a source of code to be
	46	applied on Andy Church services by anyone interested in some of the
	47	features, if you think this is not very wise, or breaks the subject of this
	48	ML please let me know, in that case I will not do this again. My new version
	49	of services: 1.2.0 available from <A HREF="http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html">http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html</A>
	50	addresses some problems I think still exist on actual services.
	51
	52	P.S.: Sorry, about my english :)
	53
	54	João Luís Marques Pinto
	55	PTlink Tech - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Lamego at PTlink.net</A>
	56	<A HREF="<A HREF="http://www.PTlink.net"">http://www.PTlink.net"</A>><A HREF="http://www.PTlink.net</A">http://www.PTlink.net</A</A>>
	57
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	59
	60	-----Original Message-----
	61	From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">BeenJaminG at aol.com</A> [<A HREF="mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">BeenJaminG at aol.com</A>">mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">BeenJaminG at aol.com</A></A>]
	62	Sent: quarta-feira, 22 de setembro de 1999 23:23
	63	To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
	64	Subject: Re: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
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66
67	In a message dated 9/22/99 12:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
68	<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">jpinto9 at visteon.com</A> writes:
69
70	><i> My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
71	</I>><i> services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
72	</I>><i> this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)
73	</I>><i>
74	</I>
75	I had also considered the impact of JOIN 0 to services with troublesome
76	bots..
77	Taking JOIN 0 out of the ircd isn't an option.. that could break some
78	clients
79	that depend on JOIN 0 to part all chanenls- besides, I beleive most ircd
80	distributions have this join command.. taking it out would be a problem :P
81	It just needs to be fixed (I havn't had any time to medle with the code
82	lately)
83
84	- bstu
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